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RSS on XP
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It depends on what particular RSS you're talking about. Spectra, for example, will run under XP, you can open up a saved codeplug, edit it, and re-save it, but you can't talk to the radio at all. RSS needs direct access to the UART chip on the serial port, and XP won't give it up, so there's NOTHING that can be done to make it work.
Other radio's RSS won't even open under XP.
Bottom line is, if you want ANY RSS version to run properly, it MUST be under real DOS, and not a DOS shell running in any version of Windows.
Other radio's RSS won't even open under XP.
Bottom line is, if you want ANY RSS version to run properly, it MUST be under real DOS, and not a DOS shell running in any version of Windows.
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bezking
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Nope. Buy a cheap old DOS laptop and use that. There's no way that RSS will work on an XP machine
Why would you want to do that? If you can load WIN95 in it, you can load DOS in it, and then the software would actually work. Most RSS won't operate in WIN95 properly either.
To the OP. You want to run old DOS versions of RSS? Just run DOS. You want to run CPS as well? Set up for dual boot. I have a Pentium that I run XP, and can dual boot to DOS. Between the two OS's, I can run anything Motorola throws at me, and there is no compromise, and no having to fight it.
2wayfreq
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I have my old Pentium and P-IIs running Windoes 98, that way I can also have DOS. I set up in autoexec.bat to boot to Direct Access first so I have access to DOS RSS MENU. When I want to go "Graphical", I hit F-10 and "Exit" to Windows 98 because its actually continuing the boot process. Then, I can use CPS so its kinda the best of both worlds.
jim202
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listen to what everyone is telling you. The older software for radios like the Spectra, GM300 and so on only run under a true DOS. Sure there will be others that say you can run it in a DOS window inside ow Windows, but I don't recommend it.
Been doing this for some 47 or more years. Download a DOS 6.2 off of the Internet and be done with it. Make the boot DOS disk and run with it. The radio programs will like it and you won't have to fight trying to make it play.
The best solution that I have found to this issue is to dual boot Windows XP and DOS. You will have to install XP on a FAT32 formatted drive. Then you can install DOS onto the root of the C drive. When the machine starts then you can choose DOS or XP. If your machine is too fast then you may run into a few problems with programming some older radios. For example, I found that my PIII Thinkpad was too fast to program HT600 radios. I had to use the program moslow to slow down the PC so that I could program the HT600. So, even this option is not perfect, but it is as close to the perfect programming machine as I have been able to come up with. It is getting harder to do everying with one machine now, though. The APX software is a hog and requires a fast PC with a lot of RAM. If you program the entire line of new and old Motorola radios then an old DOS PC and a new modern PC may be the only real option.
If you install DOS first, then XP, XP sees and recognizes the DOS partition, and prompts you to create a dual boot setup. It's seamless, and works REALLY well.
I wasn't aware that you could do it the other way around without something like Partition Magic.
With the way I have done it DOS has full access to the XP file structure (both systems can make full use of FAT32). I am not sure if this is possible the way you describe. I guess if you instructed the XP install to use FAT32 then it would work too, but wouldn't it try to use a separate partition? Mine has both OS on the same FAT32 partition. Just curious if in your DOS then XP setup can you boot DOS and access the Windows file structure? It is not critical, but it is convienient to have mutual access between the two. Anyway, just goes to show that just becasue you know one way of doing something doesn't mean that there aren't several more ways of accomplishing the same task. Thanks for sharing!
The method I use ends up with two separate partitions. Windows sees, and has access to the DOS partition, but DOS doesn't see the Windows partition. I've always thought that was due to DOS's 2 gb partition limitation. I also prefer to partition XP with NTFS, and DOS simply has no clue what that is.
I find I NEED XP to access the DOS stuff, but have never needed DOS to see the XP stuff, so the limitation is a moot issue for me.
Indeed... there's almost always more than one right way to do things.
I find I NEED XP to access the DOS stuff, but have never needed DOS to see the XP stuff, so the limitation is a moot issue for me.
Indeed... there's almost always more than one right way to do things.
2wayfreq
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Its more clutter I guess, but I prefer separate machines for the vintage of radio. For Syntor X-9000, MCX-1000,MT-1000, HT-600,STX, Saber etc, I use my 286-16 clone or 286 laptop (4 MB) with DOS 6.22 only. The RSS needs a Very slow CPU so you don't get the "Error Divide by Zero" program crash.
For Astro Spectra,Astro Saber, HT-1000, MT-2000 etc a Pentium or Pentium II (64 MB RAM) will be OK. For that era of WinRSS, it'll also work good with Win98. P-III I would say more win98 or XP CPS for Professional Radios HT-1250,750 (128,256MB Ram).. P4 for Astro Spectra,Astro-25 CPS etc Win XP (1GB Ram).
For Astro Spectra,Astro Saber, HT-1000, MT-2000 etc a Pentium or Pentium II (64 MB RAM) will be OK. For that era of WinRSS, it'll also work good with Win98. P-III I would say more win98 or XP CPS for Professional Radios HT-1250,750 (128,256MB Ram).. P4 for Astro Spectra,Astro-25 CPS etc Win XP (1GB Ram).
RKG
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