Saco PD

[chriscrutch]

Saco PD has moved to a phase I digital system. They'll be keeping the old VHF system for interoperability purposes. Mobile RX 857.0125, Mobile TX 812.0125, NAC 472

 

[kwell528]

Phase I system or P25 Conventional?

Saco PD has moved to a phase I digital system. They'll be keeping the old VHF system for interoperability purposes. Mobile RX 857.0125, Mobile TX 812.0125, NAC 472

 

[ecps92]

Saco PD has moved to a phase I digital system. They'll be keeping the old VHF system for interoperability purposes. Mobile RX 857.0125, Mobile TX 812.0125, NAC 472

Single frequency would be Conventional

Phase I / Phase II are trunking terminology and Saco was rumored to be moving to a Trunk.
IS there a control channel active yet ? or are they just going conventional for now ?

 

[GraniteScanner]

My guess is this is a test to see how 800 preforms before they go trunked.

 

[chriscrutch]

It is P25. I don't have any info on whether trunking is in the works or not.

 

[ve1sef]

Rather than re-invent the wheel. Would it be easier and less expensive to look into going on the existing state P25 system?
it is a public safety system isn't it?

 

[GraniteScanner]

Rather than re-invent the wheel. Would it be easier and less expensive to look into going on the existing state P25 system?
it is a public safety system isn't it?

That's a touchy subject. Their state system was only meant to be for the state. So much so that if you want to talk on the state system, you need to switch to 'The Well Established Region Net Channels'. These are basically analog repeaters tied into the local State Police Talk group.

In southern Counties such as York and Cumberland there is a ton of self or regional dispatching occurring due to call volume and also keeping things in house.

 

[ecps92]

Rather than re-invent the wheel. Would it be easier and less expensive to look into going on the existing state P25 system?
it is a public safety system isn't it?

MSCommNet was not designed/built-out for in-building coverage, as others have said it was designed for the State Patrol and other State (mainly highway or Forest/Fish and Game) outdoor agencies.

To provide coverage for Police/Fire in-building would require much more infrastructure.

 

[12dbsinad]

Saco PD has moved to a phase I digital system. They'll be keeping the old VHF system for interoperability purposes. Mobile RX 857.0125, Mobile TX 812.0125, NAC 472

Is the 800 patched to the VHF? How are they maintaining interop with agencies that do not have 800 capabilities?

 

[GraniteScanner]

MSCommNet was not designed/built-out for in-building coverage, as others have said it was designed for the State Patrol and other State (mainly highway or Forest/Fish and Game) outdoor agencies.

To provide coverage for Police/Fire in-building would require much more infrastructure.

Just to add onto this real quick, many (I think most) state police vehicles have L3Harris 800MHz DVRS repeaters which does provide some help with in building coverage but only when needed.

 

[ecps92]

Just to add onto this real quick, many (I think most) state police vehicles have L3Harris 800MHz DVRS repeaters which does provide some help with in building coverage but only when needed.

and they are not meant to be used for that type of operation. The on-board Repeaters are for that single cruiser and to request and need to wait 20-30+ min for a response is OFFICER SAFETY, o wait.. how can I call to ask for them, when my radio is not working inside the building.

IT IS NOT a solution to the coverage issue

 

[GraniteScanner]

and they are not meant to be used for that type of operation.

You can use a DVRS for whatever you want. What I outlined was a hypothetical situation. It goes without saying that 800 gets through buildings better. By adding my comment about DVRS it only provides further information about the system. A system this thread isn't even meant to be about.

The on-board Repeaters are for that single cruiser and to request and need to wait 20-30+ min for a response is OFFICER SAFETY, o wait.. how can I call to ask for them, when my radio is not working inside the building.

???
Bill I am having a hard time deciphering your comment here. A DVRS has no impact on response time and response time and officer safety was not part of my original comment.

IT IS NOT a solution to the coverage issue

Yeah... its not.

 

[ecps92]

???
Bill I am having a hard time deciphering your comment here. A DVRS has no impact on response time and response time and officer safety was not part of my original comment.

You mention State Police have, and that would require a request to the Maine State Police to Respond, therefore a request would have to be made....

Only a tourist to 207, but have worked 39+ years in public safety, and a DVRS is a tool, but not a solution to providing in-building coverage

 

[GraniteScanner]

You mention State Police have, and that would require a request to the Maine State Police to Respond, therefore a request would have to be made....

Only a tourist to 207, but have worked 39+ years in public safety, and a DVRS is a tool, but not a solution to providing in-building coverage

I make no such mention of that. DVRS is separate from region nets if there was some confusion there.

 

[ecps92]

I make no such mention of that. DVRS is separate from region nets if there was some confusion there.

GraniteScanner said:
Just to add onto this real quick, many (I think most) state police vehicles have L3Harris 800MHz DVRS repeaters which does provide some help with in building coverage but only when needed.

I'm out from this thread.

 

[W1KNE]

What the hell does any of this have to do with Saco??

The question about going onto the state system was simple, and could've been answered simply as such.
The answer is they are not. System was not designed for it. End of discussion on that.

Go back to discussing the Saco P25 system now before this thread gets closed...