Shame that they are not testing across all sites, I get the Topperwein site full signal in the house and Austin Hwy site barley comes in. I heard some more testing on the LO P25 site today on SA 1 and 5.
San Antonio Urban Area Initiative Overlay (SAUA) 700Mhz Interop TRS
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jbsarandolphmonitor
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I heard testing or key ups on all of the LCRA SA interop tgs on the LCRA P25 system today. I also wish that all of the SAUA sites were actived.
Donald
Donald
I'm glad you guys got the time to listen...
I injured myself last week, and am back at work today- but between work and physical therapy, I've had no time to listen to any of this (I haven't hardly turned my scanner on in a month).
Thanks Michael for confirming those across multiple systems and thanks to Don for figuring out all those interop talkgroups.
I injured myself last week, and am back at work today- but between work and physical therapy, I've had no time to listen to any of this (I haven't hardly turned my scanner on in a month).
Thanks Michael for confirming those across multiple systems and thanks to Don for figuring out all those interop talkgroups.
jbsarandolphmonitor
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You are welcome. I am happy to help. I haven't seen the LCRA SA interop tgs today. They must be done testing them.
Donald
Donald
I hope they are going to do a better job of training the dispatchers and officers on how to switch and use the interop channels. Not even a few weeks ago seemed like some officers were searching through their radios and finding new channels for the first time while trying to talk to agencies not on the LCRA system. Like the incident between Schertz and BCSO. Especilly with SA and Bexar County. I know a few officers from both would have no idea where to find an interop channel in their radio.
Oh an texasemt13 hope the rehab is going well.
Oh an texasemt13 hope the rehab is going well.
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jbsarandolphmonitor
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The other day when UC needed SAPD Eagle to help with a search. The UC dispatcher told the officer how to switch to the interop tg.
Donald
Donald
Lot of encrypted traffic today on 38259....
Encrypted traffic on an overlay system, does not seem very interoperable to me. Also may not look to good for the future of SA/BC. May go the way of Ft. Worth with encryption. But just speculation on my part.
Michael-SATX
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I think perhaps you actually heard TG # 38529 on SAUA Site # 14 (Austin Hwy).
Earlier, I heard a quick exchange in the clear digital and then they went all encrypted.
A few moments ago the TG # 38528 keyed up saying some test words in the clear also.
I submitted 13 TG's that have allready been posted in the hopes of trying to help us ID.
Seems as though some SAUA comms have come up patched to SA/BC Pro-Voice TG's
a few weeks ago. This system seems to have fairly random unpredictable traffic patterns.
Today, I have Pro96com sitting on S#15 (Topperwein) in the far fetched hope they key up
so I can capture all the system LCN's. I feel there has to be more than the 3 current LCN's ?
I have not logged much on the other SAUA sites, I'm curious why traffic does not appear on all ?
These sites must be somewhat linked because even though you don't hear TG's on site # 15
I do see under the "Other Events" tab in Pro96com, System ACKs with "unit registration" info
for example RID # 5150629 as well as "location registration" with the same RID for example.
So if that radio was say way out in NE Bexar Country perhaps I would hear it use the S#15
Topperwein Tower instead and not the S#14 Austin Hwy is what I am thinking. Any thoughts
Earlier, I heard a quick exchange in the clear digital and then they went all encrypted.
A few moments ago the TG # 38528 keyed up saying some test words in the clear also.
I submitted 13 TG's that have allready been posted in the hopes of trying to help us ID.
Seems as though some SAUA comms have come up patched to SA/BC Pro-Voice TG's
a few weeks ago. This system seems to have fairly random unpredictable traffic patterns.
Today, I have Pro96com sitting on S#15 (Topperwein) in the far fetched hope they key up
so I can capture all the system LCN's. I feel there has to be more than the 3 current LCN's ?
I have not logged much on the other SAUA sites, I'm curious why traffic does not appear on all ?
These sites must be somewhat linked because even though you don't hear TG's on site # 15
I do see under the "Other Events" tab in Pro96com, System ACKs with "unit registration" info
for example RID # 5150629 as well as "location registration" with the same RID for example.
So if that radio was say way out in NE Bexar Country perhaps I would hear it use the S#15
Topperwein Tower instead and not the S#14 Austin Hwy is what I am thinking. Any thoughts
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5150529 is a RID from the LCRA P25 network. I am assuming they are working on connecting the 700 system to the LCRA but this is the first encryption I have seen on either system. And I also assume it is techs working encrypted, but like I said eairler, encryption on a supposed 'Interop" system seems kinda strange.
jbsarandolphmonitor
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I was busy today. I didn't have anytime to listen. Did anyone hear them on the LCRA P25 side. I forgot to run pro96com.
Thanks
Donald
Thanks
Donald
Michael-SATX
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The SAUA S#14 was used for security during Friday nights Texas Folklive Festival downtown.
Monitored was officers working security bike patrols and foot patrols during last nights event.
Between 7pm until midnight there were 100 comms logged in the clear working festival security.
Also logged were RIDs 6026050 (on TG# 38529 & 38528 ) and 6047639 ( on TG# 38529 & 39844 ).
Below is a read-in from my radio showing hit counts logged between 7pm and 11pm during event.
SAUA TG # 38528 Group 38528 2
SAUA TG # 38529 Group 38529 8
SAUA TG # 39044 Group 39044 0
SAUA TG # 39046 Group 39046 0
SAUA TG # 39110 Group 39110 0
SAUA TG # 39111 Group 39111 0
SAUA TG # 39841 Group 39841 2
SAUA TG # 39842 Group 39842 2
SAUA TG # 39843 Group 39843 9
SAUA TG # 39844 Group 39844 9
SAUA TG # 39845 Group 39845 15
SAUA TG $ 39846 Group 39846 1
SAUA TG # 39873 Group 39873 50 Hits ( This TG was most used for Folk Live Festival Security )
SAUA TG # 39877 Group 39877 0
ps ~ On a side note, the last time this SAUA S#14 TRS was this busy was during the 2013 NIOSA Fiesta Event.
Monitored was officers working security bike patrols and foot patrols during last nights event.
Between 7pm until midnight there were 100 comms logged in the clear working festival security.
Also logged were RIDs 6026050 (on TG# 38529 & 38528 ) and 6047639 ( on TG# 38529 & 39844 ).
Below is a read-in from my radio showing hit counts logged between 7pm and 11pm during event.
SAUA TG # 38528 Group 38528 2
SAUA TG # 38529 Group 38529 8
SAUA TG # 39044 Group 39044 0
SAUA TG # 39046 Group 39046 0
SAUA TG # 39110 Group 39110 0
SAUA TG # 39111 Group 39111 0
SAUA TG # 39841 Group 39841 2
SAUA TG # 39842 Group 39842 2
SAUA TG # 39843 Group 39843 9
SAUA TG # 39844 Group 39844 9
SAUA TG # 39845 Group 39845 15
SAUA TG $ 39846 Group 39846 1
SAUA TG # 39873 Group 39873 50 Hits ( This TG was most used for Folk Live Festival Security )
SAUA TG # 39877 Group 39877 0
ps ~ On a side note, the last time this SAUA S#14 TRS was this busy was during the 2013 NIOSA Fiesta Event.
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Anybody say channel names or mention what group they were using or anything?
Michael-SATX
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Yes, on TG#39873 the security guys called their base of ops their " Command Post " .
I wish I could receive the SAUA S#11 ( SAPD HQ ) I would think they should have used
that site which is closer to downtown than the SAUA S#14 ( Austin Hwy ) site location.
ps ~ Now we can't go expecting things to always make sense now can we
I wish I could receive the SAUA S#11 ( SAPD HQ ) I would think they should have used
that site which is closer to downtown than the SAUA S#14 ( Austin Hwy ) site location.
ps ~ Now we can't go expecting things to always make sense now can we
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Agreed...I was thinking the same thing plus there have to be more freqs for the downtown site. Plus It looks like channels are not simulcast across all sites so someone has to near the Topperwein site to hear anything on it. I read something on the Harris website a long time ago that he 700mhz towers were goingto co locate on the Sa/bc system towers. But that doesn't explain the Austin Hwy site.
KB7MIB
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Does this system carry only interoperability/mutual-aid traffic, or does it also carry day-to-day patrol and other traffic for area agencies? And which tower sites would be best for an I-10 traveler passing through/stopping for the night?
Does this system carry only interoperability/mutual-aid traffic, or does it also carry day-to-day patrol and other traffic for area agencies? And which tower sites would be best for an I-10 traveler passing through/stopping for the night?
KB7MIB
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I want to make note of the best sites for this system, LRCA, and other trunked systems along the Texas I-10 corridor for future road trips. I enjoyed a PHL to JAX to PHX (I-95 and I-10) trip back in Jan '10, but had nothing preprogrammed at the time.
I want to make note of the best sites for this system, LRCA, and other trunked systems along the Texas I-10 corridor for future road trips. I enjoyed a PHL to JAX to PHX (I-95 and I-10) trip back in Jan '10, but had nothing preprogrammed at the time.
Michael-SATX
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Well guess what, the SAUA S#13 Fire Training Academy site finally has been active this morning.
So with this traffic finally comes their missing freqencies and even a new TG#38610 (RID=6047639)
I will submit these but if someone posts them first GREat as sometimes my submissions take a week.
These are the SAUA S#13 FTA Freqs:
769.356250c
770.206250v
771.081250v ( just got it today )
774.406250v ( just got it today )
Also, as I type this the radio techs came up on SAUA S#14 on TG#39873 in the clear digital mode
saying that they have TX & RX modules on the "Fire Training Academy" (S#13) being worked on, etc.
Which would explain why I finally snagged these missing S#13 freqs today. Lets hope for S#15 work
On S#13 the radio techs were on TG#39873 with RIDs # 16310, 16311 and I just saw a forced RID#16312 .
In addition to TG#38610 w/RID=6047639 was another new TG#38609 w/RID=6026052 ... thats it for now.
For now to better document things, I am have all 5 SAUA sites programmed individualy to better note system activity.
So with this traffic finally comes their missing freqencies and even a new TG#38610 (RID=6047639)
I will submit these but if someone posts them first GREat as sometimes my submissions take a week.
These are the SAUA S#13 FTA Freqs:
769.356250c
770.206250v
771.081250v ( just got it today )
774.406250v ( just got it today )
Also, as I type this the radio techs came up on SAUA S#14 on TG#39873 in the clear digital mode
saying that they have TX & RX modules on the "Fire Training Academy" (S#13) being worked on, etc.
Which would explain why I finally snagged these missing S#13 freqs today. Lets hope for S#15 work
On S#13 the radio techs were on TG#39873 with RIDs # 16310, 16311 and I just saw a forced RID#16312 .
In addition to TG#38610 w/RID=6047639 was another new TG#38609 w/RID=6026052 ... thats it for now.
For now to better document things, I am have all 5 SAUA sites programmed individualy to better note system activity.
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Michael-SATX
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Well low and behold, the SAUA S#15 (Topperwein Rd) site finally came alive as well today.
This site activity let me docement 2 more new found freqs to finally submit to the RR DB today.
SAUA S#15 Topperwein TRS
769.756250c
770.656250v
771.656250v
773.131250v (just found today)
774.906250v (just found today)
btw ~ As if rounding out 2 of these site in a day was not enough, lightning struck again so to speak.
A radio tech testing on TG # 39873 (Clear) simultaneously on both Site # 14 and Site # 15 at the same time.
Now this tech testing could have been system wide on all 5 sites but I was only monitoring 2 sites at the time.
Also, TG # 38529 (Encrypted) is now simultaneously on both Site # 14 and Site # 13 at the same time.
Also, TG # 38614 (Encrypted) just showed on Site # 14 and Site # 13 ... can't confirm S#11 RX ... yet
Finally, a big thanks to the lady who keyed up on Site #15 to help me finally fill out the S#15 freqs today
OK, I'm out the door to go OnSite (Out of Site) and nail down a new TRS that I will submit later today !
This site activity let me docement 2 more new found freqs to finally submit to the RR DB today.
SAUA S#15 Topperwein TRS
769.756250c
770.656250v
771.656250v
773.131250v (just found today)
774.906250v (just found today)
btw ~ As if rounding out 2 of these site in a day was not enough, lightning struck again so to speak.
A radio tech testing on TG # 39873 (Clear) simultaneously on both Site # 14 and Site # 15 at the same time.
Now this tech testing could have been system wide on all 5 sites but I was only monitoring 2 sites at the time.
Also, TG # 38529 (Encrypted) is now simultaneously on both Site # 14 and Site # 13 at the same time.
Also, TG # 38614 (Encrypted) just showed on Site # 14 and Site # 13 ... can't confirm S#11 RX ... yet
Finally, a big thanks to the lady who keyed up on Site #15 to help me finally fill out the S#15 freqs today
OK, I'm out the door to go OnSite (Out of Site) and nail down a new TRS that I will submit later today !
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Good catch on both of those Mike, to bad they have some encrypted traffic. Wonder what it is? Like I said before encrypted traffic on an interop system seems strange.
Also on the RID's from site 13 the 16xxx ones are SA area techs and of course you know the 602xxxx is a LCRA tech.
Also on the RID's from site 13 the 16xxx ones are SA area techs and of course you know the 602xxxx is a LCRA tech.
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