SDRTrunk - need advice

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royldean

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I've got the latest SDRTrunk and voice decoder installed (ubuntu 18.04). Trying to monitor this system:

Montgomery County (P25) Trunking System, Eagleville, Pennsylvania - Scanner Frequencies

The control channel is very strong (I'm listening to west simulcast). Should I be using "Phase I" decoder with LSM selected, or "Phase II" decoder?

If I use "Phase II", I get some activity in the messages area - "sync loss - bits processed [6000]"
If I use "Phase I", I get tons of activity in the messages are like this:

2020:01:21 20:05:05APCO-250NAC:1635 TSBK2 SEC_CCH_BROADCST RFSS:1 SITE:3 CHAN A:0-391 SERVICE OPTIONS:[BACKUP CONTROL CHANNEL] CHAN B:0-181 SERVICE OPTIONS:[BACKUP CONTROL CHANNEL]

But I never hear any voice or see any additional channels popping up in the channel area. I should note that this system is being tested, so it could be that there is simply nobody transmitting at the times I am looking.

But first things first, I've read that trunked PII systems should be decoded with the PI decoder.... and it seems that I get "better" results that way. Is that correct? Any other advice? Thanks.
 

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I've got the latest SDRTrunk and voice decoder installed (ubuntu 18.04). Trying to monitor this system:

Montgomery County (P25) Trunking System, Eagleville, Pennsylvania - Scanner Frequencies

The control channel is very strong (I'm listening to west simulcast). Should I be using "Phase I" decoder with LSM selected, or "Phase II" decoder?

If I use "Phase II", I get some activity in the messages area - "sync loss - bits processed [6000]"
If I use "Phase I", I get tons of activity in the messages are like this:

2020:01:21 20:05:05APCO-250NAC:1635 TSBK2 SEC_CCH_BROADCST RFSS:1 SITE:3 CHAN A:0-391 SERVICE OPTIONS:[BACKUP CONTROL CHANNEL] CHAN B:0-181 SERVICE OPTIONS:[BACKUP CONTROL CHANNEL]

But I never hear any voice or see any additional channels popping up in the channel area. I should note that this system is being tested, so it could be that there is simply nobody transmitting at the times I am looking.

But first things first, I've read that trunked PII systems should be decoded with the PI decoder.... and it seems that I get "better" results that way. Is that correct? Any other advice? Thanks.

Yes a P25 phase ! or II trunk control frequency is to use Phase I decoder.

The Phase II decoder is used for only single, non control P25 phase II signals.
 

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Thanks! Follow up: I've followed the JMBE install directions and I believe it's installed correctly. Is there any way to verify other than hearing audio? I'm assuming that if a new channel "pops up" it should indicate that it's voice, no? I guess I'll need to to test it on a system that actually sees significant traffic.
 

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Under "now playing screen" and then the "events screen" when I get voice I see under the event tab "Group call" and under the detail tab I see "Phase 1 channel grant". If the call is encrypted it will show "Phase 1 channel grant encrypted circuit" which will automatically mute the call.
 

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You can also join sdrtrunk in google groups. There is a lot of discussion going on there and you would probably get a better response to your questions there. The developer monitors this group and frequently offers advice.
 

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Update (and to close out thread), I brought my lappy top into work (One county south of where I was originally testing) and they are running a full time P25PII system here. I can confirm that SDRTrunk is working just fine and decoding voice (although many missed transmissions because I am only using a single dongle and some of the trunking frequencies are out of range). Nice!

Thanks, everybody!
 
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