Several months ago the Hutchins Tx police / fire department intergrated to the NTIRN system. I have a SDS 100 & 200 to monitor. However, I cannot receive any of the Hutchins transmissions. I don't have a problem receiving Dallas Police or Sheriff's Department, as well as Ellis County who are on the same system. Does anyone have any suggestions on what the problem may be?
SDS 200 Receiving problems
- Thread starter tatersalad24
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Did you add Hutchins TGIDs to your scanners?
| 36525 | 8ead | T | Hutchins PD 1 | Police 1 | Law Dispatch |
| 36526 | 8eae | TE | Hutchins PD 2 | Police 2 | Law Tac |
| 36527 | 8eaf | T | Hutchins PD Trng | Police Training | Law Talk |
| 36533 | 8eb5 | T | Hutchins Ani Ctl | Animal Control | Public Works |
| 36535 | 8eb7 | T | Hutchins FD 1 | Fire Dispatch | Fire Dispatch |
| 36536 | 8eb8 | T | Hutchins FD 2 | Fire 2 | Fire-Tac |
| 36545 | 8ec1 | T | Hutchins FD Alrt | Fire Alerting | Fire Dispatch |
Yes, I have all the TGIG's entered as they are in the RR database. I can hear the audio on the Broadcastify archives, but not on a scanner. I also have the same TGID on a second SDS 200 at another location that isn't receiving as well.
You are scanning Dallas Layer 1 and Layer 2, along with Ellis county? If so make sure the TGs aren't avoided in your programming. If you are only scanning Ellis County, Hutchins may not be affiliated with the towers in Ellis Co. Other than that can't think why two different scanners would not be receiving Hutchins.
How about letting us take a look at your programming file?
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If your Favorites list set to use location?
If so, when you added the Hutchins talkgroups to your file, did you do that via an import via ProScan or ARC536? Or did you manually add those Hutchins talkgroups?
I don't be live Hutchins is carried on 3-2 of NTIRN Very few public safety is on Dallas Layer 2. I am hearing fire (don't monitor police) on Dallas Layer 1.
Looking at my logs, I only see Hutchins PD & FD on Dallas Layer 1.
On a side note, I'm seeing DFR on Layer 2 more often than Layer 1. Wild guess on my part, but perhaps there are areas where layer 2 coverage is better than layer 1, so maybe the radio chooses the better signal.
And DPD Ch 1 appears on L2 more often than L1.
tatersalad
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tatersalad
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One SDS 200 is in Kaufman. The other is in Hutchins. Neither one will receive Hutchins PD or FD. I have the correct TGID for Hutchins in my favorites. I may not have the correct sites in my database.
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I have modified your list to organize it slightly differently, but with much the same talkgroups. I did add DFR.
I have that loaded in my SDS200, which is on a basic antenna in my office. Not an external (as in 'rooftop'). I'll let it run overnight. I have it set to record anything it hears & will check it around mid-day, and see what it's captured.
Not sure why, since I did not see anything way off the wall in the file you posted, but when I loaded it for a first try, I was getting a "nothing to scan" error. Nothing was locked out, and you were not set to use location control, but something, not sure what, was giving me the error. The updated file I created is scanning & recording and I'll review results later today (Sunday).
In the updated file, I did delete all the other sites (Arlington, Fort Worth, etc). You had them locked out, but I went ahead and deleted them to reduce unused item.
The correct sites for Hutchins would be Dallas Layer 1 & Dallas Layer 2. They will predominantly use Layer 1, but would default to Layer 2 if there was a problem accessing Layer 1. I would also include the Ellis County site in case a Hutchins unit was down in Ellis, & for some reason could not hit layer 1 or 2. I did not see an issue with your Hutchins TGIDs.
I have modified your list to organize it slightly differently, but with much the same talkgroups. I did add DFR.
I have that loaded in my SDS200, which is on a basic antenna in my office. Not an external (as in 'rooftop'). I'll let it run overnight. I have it set to record anything it hears & will check it around mid-day, and see what it's captured.
Not sure why, since I did not see anything way off the wall in the file you posted, but when I loaded it for a first try, I was getting a "nothing to scan" error. Nothing was locked out, and you were not set to use location control, but something, not sure what, was giving me the error. The updated file I created is scanning & recording and I'll review results later today (Sunday).
In the updated file, I did delete all the other sites (Arlington, Fort Worth, etc). You had them locked out, but I went ahead and deleted them to reduce unused item.
I returned your original, slightly modified file, as well as my test file to you via a "conversation" message. See that message for more information.
tatersalad
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I didn't receive a conversation message.
Click on the envelope icon in the upper right corner of the screen, between tour avatar (the T in the green circle) and the small bell that indicates a reaction to posts you’ve made. You should see a number ‘1’ beside the envelope icon.
If you still do not see that, I can attach the file to a post here in the forums.
Here's the same file that was sent via a conversation message.
tatersalad
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I downloaded the file, and it works. On a side note. Am I required to assign a quick key and/or number tag ?
No. Those are optional.
Quick keys let you toggle a favorites list (on the Home Patrol database scanners such as the x36HP 7 SDS series) on or off instead of having to access the menu, select "Set Scan Selection", then use the sub menu to turn a specific Favorites on or off (not being scanned). With a quick specified for the list, you can turn that system off (no longer being scanned), or "on", enabling a list to now be included in your current session.
Quick keys can also be specified for specific systems, and for the departments (as well as sites for trunked systems) so that you can turn them on, or off depending what you want to hear. Say, for example, you have three different cities programmed, all of then assigned a QK (quick key). You hear a major incident, of some type, being dispatched for units in 'city one'. It really has your interest, and you want to, temporarily, ignore routine activity in the other locations. You simply enter their QK numbers (one at a time) to turn them off for now. Once whatever peaked your interest is over, you can easily turn those systems back on & resume normal listening.
Let's say that your 'major incident' that caught your attention (as well as having you temporarily turn off other systems with a quick key, was a very large fire. You have a number tag programmed for the fireground channel most often used. You can use the number tag to jump straight to that channel, rather than waiting for it to come up while scanning, or going to manual (hold) mode and using the scroll knob to progress to that channel.
There's much more info, including how to set up & use number tags on the Easier to Read manual page for your scanner. When on the initial landing page for your scanner model, hit <Ctrl><F> (the control button on your keyboard, as well as the letter F), both at the same time. That brings up a box in your browser for a search. Enter Number Tag in that box & press Enter. That will let you see all the references to number tags. The link for the section "Using Number Tags" is here.
Ok thank you. That answers my question. More questions..As a feed provider, I use Sentinel and scanner cast. Is Pro Scan the only program that will allow me to display alpha tags on the feed?
I'm not a feed provider, so I can't offer much help.
This thread was about problems receiving a specific system here in Texas. Posting in the state forum was your best option to get answers from others that do monitor the system in question.
However, your other question, regarding alpha tags on feed is more software specific.
There is a forum for that specific topic type:
Streaming / Broadcasting / Audio Recording
Interested in putting your scanner online for others to hear? Want to listen to other radios on the internet. This forum is here for you to discuss these topics related to streaming scanners online.
Start a new feed, in that forum, and you're much more likely to get useful responses more quickly.
Good luck
