3 years ago I put up a 600 ft horizontal loop up 53 ft for ham use. It's fed with ladder line to a 4:1 balun, then 4 feet of coax to 100w Icom rig with a Mat tuner. I never even cut it to resonance. I've run the simple model with EZNEC for 20m, indicates lobes are at quite a high angle. Not impressive as a DX antenna. In practice it's an awesome DX antenna. I'll spare the observations from pileup's and other circumstances where the performance of this loop has clearly been a lot better than the models predict. You can read in many places how people repeatedly say the same thing. Naturally everyone wants to think their antenna is a great performer... But after many contacts over 3 years I can honestly say this antenna is a superb DX performer. Has any else had similar experience and what opinions are out there of actual performance vs model predicted performance. 73 John K1KSC