SL Sheriff standoff last night

[Audiodave1]

Anyone catch the conclusion of the barricaded perp at 47th S 13th E early this AM.
I needed sleep and didn't hear it out. SWAT was ready to go in if the negiotiator gave the ok.

BTW, If an op like that was taking place in my area of the country it would have been encrypted and or on low power channels. It's nice to hear an analog TRS again as most of them within a 60mi radius of me are digital.


Dave
(Visiting from Delaware)

 

[bneilson]

Yea, we have very few things that are even digital let alone encrypted...

UCAN is great for the agencies that use it and great for us that like to listen. The challenge is keeping up with who is where and doing what... If you recall the TG's that were active, please post them here as things change and it is always nice to have current validation.

 

[Audiodave1]

It was all on SL SO TAC-1 / TAC-2 and Special Ops.

I'm running Trunker for the next day on the UCAN Nelson site. Ran it on the UCAN SLC site yesterday. I'll organize the activity files and post them somehow. Likely as .txt files. It shows how much traffic, if any is on a TG from a particular site (A hit counter of sorts)

Hopefully it'll help someone.

So far the nonly thing I have ID'ed TG wise that was not in the UCAN DB is SLC's 2 PD dispatch channels are on there. This may not be news to the locals though.

Dave

 

[Audiodave1]

Here's a sample screen shot of Unitrunker in action.

 

[LGLHOOK]

On that bottom screen flash, did you have to program in those TG id's or does the system automatically bring up the TG id's associated with the tower you are monitoring?

 

[Audiodave1]

I download the TG's for the system in .csv format using the RR.com web service. I cut out everything but the descriptions and TG's.
Then I tune in the system briefly on Unitrunker which creates a TG ID file in .csv format.
I open the TG ID file in .xls, past in the ID + description form RR.com and fill in all of the default values from the top down on the sheet.
Then it is re-saved as a MS-DOS CSV file (Which Unitrunker wants) Rename it to the proper file name, in this case moto7202.gid and put it back in the Unitrunker folder and presto, I have labels for all of the ID's and just wait for the hit counters on the ID's to start rolling for the site I tune into. Since all sites end up with the same moto7202 name I re-save the GID file after some time to a unique descriptive name in .xls format for later investigations.

It's easy now that I have done it on dozens of systems as IO travel alot. Just looking at ID's + Hits is a little boring.

For fun, I attached last nights run of the SLC UCAN site. It is in .txt format. Download it, open it and copy the entire text blob. Paste it into a new .xls sheet.

After doing that, highlight the A column , goto "data" on the top tool bar, select "text to columns" make sure "Delimited" is selected, hit next and select "COMMA" as the delimiter...nothing else.hit NEXT, Hit FINISH and there ya go! Formatted data.

Now, you basically can delete every column except for address,label and hits. Now you can sort by Hits to see the most active TG's on that site during the time that data was collected.

Wasn't that fun??!!>

It's really useful to have Unitrunker for analyzing TRS traffic and finding new or just "visiting" TG's.

Dave

 

[gldavis]

I've been running Unitrunker for several months now on a couple of my radios. Different systems at different times. On Saturdays, I usually park somewhere in the valley for a couple of hours with a laptop and radio, and just search the bands looking for new/different systems. Attached is what I've gotten on UCAN sites 2 and 3 over the past month.
Gary

 

[gldavis]

Attached is the frequency readout for UCAN.
Gary

 

[Audiodave1]

Very Nice!

Being a visitor I am having fun decoding the systems and listening in.

I'm glad to see the program being made good use of here. I wish I had the time to sit on TG's and ID them but that'll have to be done by you guys. I'll contribute what I can. Thanks for the information,

Dave

 

[qlajlu]

So far the nonly thing I have ID'ed TG wise that was not in the UCAN DB is SLC's 2 PD dispatch channels are on there. This may not be news to the locals though.

Our trunking system was up and operational for the Winter Olympics and UCAN carried all the traffic mostly to satisfy the feds I think. The SLC PD link to UCAN is still in place, but I haven't heard SLC FD link over for quite some time on the UCAN sites. Once Salt Lake City set up its own system and especially since they are now simo from several locations it improved radio comm inside Salt Lake's City limits tremendously. I'm not sure who is maintaining the link to UCAN, whether it is the city or UCAN.

This system is huge for the Public Safety aspect around here. It sure was better than little green apples when we had the shootings at the Trolley Square Mall a few months back. All agencies were able to cooridinate because of it.

 

[bneilson]

It's really useful to have Unitrunker for analyzing TRS traffic and finding new or just "visiting" TG's.

Dave

So I run a BR330T and looking at the Unitrunker site, it indicates that I have to have a discriminator tap. I have searched around and have not found any place that tells me how to do this on the BR330T.

Do you actually have to have a discriminator tap?

Do you happen to know where I can find directions to do it on the BR330T?

Also if you are just monitoring the control channel, you don't have to have a trunking scanner do you? Just thinking of a way I can get something cheep that will allow me to run the application...

 

[qlajlu]

bneilson, I don't pretend to know what is being talked about when you start talking about slicers and discriminator taps, but I remembered seeing something about slicers on n7olq's Web site. When you visit this page, scroll down in the left panel until you see "Data Slicer" and click on that. All the information will show in the right panel and it discusses discriminator taps there also.

Maybe you could teach me what they are talking about because this UniTracker sounds interesting and fun. I also have an old Uniden scanner around here somewhere that is doing me no good since "we" went to trunking.

 

[brandon]

You do need a disc tap in order for it to work.
Here is a guy that will do it for you (for a fee) in case you are not comfortable modding a radio.
http://www.dataslicers.com/tapservice.htm
I believe he is located in Utah as well since the screenshots on the site show the UCAN system.

 

[qlajlu]

According to the Zip Code on that Web site this guy is in the Eagle Mountain/Sartoga Springs area.

 

[N7OLQ]

I'm in Lehi - I think the zip code is shared.
I'll have to open up my BR330 since I have not looked around to see where the tap goes, and more importantly, if there is enough room for a jack. Prices for taps are posted on my dataslicers.com site.


Brett - N7OLQ

 

[SCPD]

I download the TG's for the system in .csv format using the RR.com web service. I cut out everything but the descriptions and TG's.
Then I tune in the system briefly on Unitrunker which creates a TG ID file in .csv format.
I open the TG ID file in .xls, past in the ID + description form RR.com and fill in all of the default values from the top down on the sheet.
Then it is re-saved as a MS-DOS CSV file (Which Unitrunker wants) Rename it to the proper file name, in this case moto7202.gid and put it back in the Unitrunker folder and presto, I have labels for all of the ID's and just wait for the hit counters on the ID's to start rolling for the site I tune into. Since all sites end up with the same moto7202 name I re-save the GID file after some time to a unique descriptive name in .xls format for later investigations.

Dave;
Please try this ...

[F]ind ... ystem ... type in the system ID, at the bottom fill in your RR user id and password. From the menu, select [D]ownload. For EDACS systens, download by the SID. Unitrunker was one of the first programs to support the RR DB download.

I'm sorry you had to jump through so many hoops.

-rick

 

[enosjones]

Interesting stuff but what about TGID 58880?

I've been running Unitrunker for several months now on a couple of my radios. Different systems at different times. On Saturdays, I usually park somewhere in the valley for a couple of hours with a laptop and radio, and just search the bands looking for new/different systems. Attached is what I've gotten on UCAN sites 2 and 3 over the past month.
Gary

I heard the scanner pick up on 58880 as well sounded like the data control channel on your list it says p-25 ? what can be done if anything to hear it i intially locked it out cuz it was getting annoying but if its something more than a glitch in the system then i'll unlock it.
Any Ideas?

 

[gldavis]

If I had it on my list as P-25, that means the TG is digital. I do have digital receivers, so I can hear(understand) waht is being said. Where my list shows P-25e, that means the TG is digital with voice inversion encryption. Sounds abit like Donald Duck talking bacwards.
I have received several TG i the 58xxx series, and all were digital.
Gary

 

[Audiodave1]

Dave;
Please try this ...

[F]ind ... ystem ... type in the system ID, at the bottom fill in your RR user id and password. From the menu, select [D]ownload. For EDACS systens, download by the SID. Unitrunker was one of the first programs to support the RR DB download.

I'm sorry you had to jump through so many hoops.

-rick

That's what I get for not reading about the updates......

Dave

 

[enosjones]

If I had it on my list as P-25, that means the TG is digital. I do have digital receivers, so I can hear(understand) waht is being said. Where my list shows P-25e, that means the TG is digital with voice inversion encryption. Sounds abit like Donald Duck talking bacwards.
I have received several TG i the 58xxx series, and all were digital.
Gary

Ok, so does that mean i need to reprogram my scanner for ucan to P25 rather than mot 80 standard so i can recieve the digital TG's? Cuz if i do it would require me to re enter everything and my 396 is full i have all ucan programmed all ready or most that is the most active that has been on the ford site and such. I dont think my scanner would just let me switch from one type to another. Especially to P-25.
Any thoughts?

Thanks