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I can't confirm it but I believe the CT USAR team has a cache of 800 radios and that talkgroup is in them. The programming of those radios was the first use of that talkgroup a year+/- ago (thats why you may see that TG listed as USAR in some places). When the state bought the 800 radios for every PD, FD, & EMS service, they also got additional radios for several groups and that was supposed to be one (I used to have some info on who got all the radios but can't put my hands on it).

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yea i heard them testing them also (ch.95) and making sure of the IDs on them . isnt this supposed to be the dynamic regroup talkgroup?
 

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Dynamic regrouping is different channel (Ch 80) there is not a talkgroup assigned to that. Essentially, the radio is remotely changed and locked to Ch 49.

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ok thanks chris , thats what i figured , as to what i read thier is no certain talkgroup assigned to dynamic regrouping unless im mistaken, but help me here , i have in my scanners (250-D/ 785-D) ch#95>dyn regrp talkgroup 32848 , so if you could just clear this up for me this is SPAN? and what is span? and i guess channel 80 would be the talkgroup patched by the dispatcher when needed? correct. thanks for your help , also , how do you have this set up in your scanner?
 

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Channel 95 is the State Police Access Node.

Channel 95 itself is a talkgroup, however it can also be used for dynamic regrouping for non-CSP units with CSP units if nesseary.

Every PSAP in the state who got the consolette radio from DHS has access to this channel. The portables that were distrubited do not have acess unless one of the ICALL/ITAC channels are patched through.

Should 5 or 6 area's of the state falls under an emergency situation (for haha's), those PSAP's involved can go to chan95, and the message center can specify which agencies are regrouped to a dynamic group, and other agencies on 95 to yet another dynamic talkgroup. Its pretty cool stuff. Dynamic talkgroups themselves are virtual talkgroups like the private calls are. Once the TG is no longer needed, it disappears (its usually a randomly generated tg number).
 

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thanks , yea that is pretty cool....make up a talkgroup , when no longer needed , send it to the recycling bind!
 

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Since the only time I heard anyone (Bristol PD) try to use SPAN ended in failure, I can't say for sure how it works.
Since 95- SPAN is a talkgroup, it can be patched or regrouped to work with any other CSP t/g.
My impression when I heard about the CSP placing a unit in every dispatch center would be that the CSP consolette would be patched to the dispatch centers freqs and then Ch 95 used or patched to another CSP talkgroup. Other than radio checks when each unit was hooked up, I have never heard any kind of test or roll call.

MSP & Enfield PD had a long pursuit that went down into Hartford streets and then back south on 91 for a stolen veh. CSP refused to allow troopers to join in and just kept the troopers informed as the Hotline broadcast the chase. Units had been on WMLEC and Enfield was on RAFS eventually. Never heard any attempt by CSP to tell troopers to monitor on RAFS (Ch 62/63) or patch a channel through. I would have thought along the lines of patching Enfield -> SPAN -> H car to car (Ch 20) Then RAFS -> SPAN -> H car to car
(They hit snow and broke it off and CSP found the vehicle off the rd shortly thereafter in Cromwell and pinched the driver.)

This all probably can go back to the call volume / dispatcher load discussion going on regarding the troopers smart ass reply to the 911 calls.

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Troop H actually has WMLEC access. However, I am not sure if its a straight UHF radio at the barracks or if its patched up off of Soapstone.

Once in a great while you can hear them on it, but very infrequent.

The consolettes ordered for the PSAP's came with the tone remote option, but it was up to the indivudual PSAP if they wanted to intagrate the Astro into their system. Most did not, but a few did. Then its a matter of the dispatcher to patch both radio's together if allowed/know how to.
 

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thanks chris for the update on that , i listened to that on my 785-D in my car on my way back to springfield from hartford after work, i was surprised when i heard dispatch tell H cars due to weather conditions , we will not be engaging in this pursuit ! WOW....then they passed me around the 46 exit area , i followed it as long as i could but once i got home i was only really recieving suffield calling out the hartford cruiser that was struck , to make sure he was ok....that was on windsor st. then i had to go into the house, and eat , sleep , and go to bed , but thanks for the update on that !
 

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OK, out of my state for a moment :lol: What does Dynamic regrouping mean? Toledo has some TG's like this too, I never hear traffic on em, but what are they? Thanks
 
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