State Patrol Special Events Frequencies

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I just noticed two State Patrol Special Events frequencies have been added to the database.
151.3700 100.0 PL
155.4600 146.2 PL

My question is are these frequencies and tones used Statewide?
 

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State Patrol Special Events

When these were first licensed, I made a note that there are 151.370 and 151.460 base transmitters listed at both One West Wilson St (State Office Building). and 1220 Linden Dr (Van Hise Hall). Those are the transmitter locations for the Capitol PD and University of Wisconsin PD respectively.

Some otherfrequencies came in under WPUF258 at the same time: 155.460 and 460.400 at Wilson St. and 460.325 on Van Hise Hall. Also 155.505 came in at 1440 Monroe (Camp Randall stadium) and 155.625 at 101 South Webster (DNR headquarters). All are Madison locations. Then it showed 154.680 and 151.460 on Industrial Dr. in Columbus, WI. Again all under the common call sign,. No state agency I can think of would need the Columbus location.

These frequencies still show up under WPUF258 on the old FCC search site, but not under the current one (unless I did something wrong). I have no idea what system was envisioned here, other than some sort of intersystem between the agencies. One of the VHF frequencies is used to simucast Madison during Halloween (sorry I can't remember which; 155.460 maybe), but I've never heard any traffic on the other VHFs. Any ideas would be welcome.
 

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Citywide6 - Isn't 155.625 also the primary Fond du Lac County Sheriff repeater output frequency? If 155.625 is also licensed to the state that close, then the regional frequency coordinator may have been sleeping on the job that day. I can receive the Fond du Lac County Sheriff on 155.625 in my mobile from a relative's driveway in Madison.
 

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I live just north of Madison and I can pull in Fond du Lac CO Sheriff clearly from my house.

I'm guessing it was a typo or something
 

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If the FCC records are correct, 151.37000 has transmitter sites in Dane, Iowa, Marathon, Marinette, Shawano, Waupaca & Wood Counties. And 155.46000 has a transmitter site in almost every county in the state.
 

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Does anyone have an UP TO DATE list of counties and state agencies that have MARC repeaters in place (151.2800)? In some cases these are the only interoperability systems available in any given area for interagency op's. It's a shame that they are not utilized more... especially by 800 users who have to send mutual aid units out of their own local coverage area and have to rely on WISPERN simplex.

(Is the Winnebago County MARC system still turned on 24/7 ? )
 

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RevGary said:
Does anyone have an UP TO DATE list of counties and state agencies that have MARC repeaters in place (151.2800)? In some cases these are the only interoperability systems available in any given area for interagency op's. It's a shame that they are not utilized more... especially by 800 users who have to send mutual aid units out of their own local coverage area and have to rely on WISPERN simplex.

(Is the Winnebago County MARC system still turned on 24/7 ? )

Silly man...I thought you had a challenge. Appendix B is your friend :)

http://siec.wi.gov/docview.asp?docid=9470

I can key up at least 2 MARC repeaters on a given day, sometimes 3. I haven't read the MARC policy verbatim yet, but I believe they are to be shut off when not in use...which cleary isn't the case.

You knocking WISPERN? Why I oughta...
 
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Stateboy - Thanks for the link - I'll copy that to hard file and keep copies in our Red Cross Disaster Team ERV folders. Not knocking WISPERN at all - it's just that simplex op's on WISPERN have a disadvantage for distance compared to the MARC repeaters. I was in uniform for 21 years and wished that the MARC system had been around in those days.

For those who are interested, according to the database here, most states that use 155.4750 have their systems set up for CSQ only without CTCSS tone. Wisconsin is one of the FEW states that does use CTCSS tone at the base station receivers at 156.7 hz to try to eliminate interstate - border interferance. Point to point on 155.3700 is in the same boat and uses 146.2 hz CTCSS, especially in adjacent state - border areas where that frequency is also in use.
 

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RevGary said:
Not knocking WISPERN at all - it's just that simplex op's on WISPERN have a disadvantage for distance compared to the MARC repeaters.

Nothing a bunch of high sites and four-bay folded dipoles can't fix :cool:

FWIW, I am still forced to deal with ISPERN as the base stations are programmed for RX carrier squelch. There is CG/PL on TX only.
 
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FYI 151.370 is licensed to surrounding states for Conservation and may have originally been licensed for M/A with WI DNR but that's only an assumption with now factual support :)

Regarding WISPERN... who even uses it anymore beside Illinoise?? I VERY rarely hear a C2C conversation between WSP units and maybe a county unit here and there but hardly nothing in the past five years. Oh, forgot about the occasional aircraft speed control but that has been cut way back as well I'm told due to $$$$. Don't even hear you guys at the WSP districts testing it anymore or am I missing something? Ever since the district changes, I don't hear much from the Sheboygan area. WSP use of thier Sheboygan TRS TG's is down to almost never as well.
 

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Ever since the district changes, I don't hear much from the Sheboygan area. WSP use of thier Sheboygan TRS TG's is down to almost never as well.

I think the Sheboygan Co TRS does it right, the WSP TG's are only active when troopers are working in Sheboygan county. Here in Ozaukee Co, all WSP transmissions on 154.665 are simulcast over TG 657/05-021. I don't have a problem with the simulcast of troopers in Milwaukee, Waukesha or Washington counties, but why the simulcast of troopers from Racine, Kenosha and Walworth counties on the Ozaukee system.
 
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I think the Sheboygan Co TRS does it right, the WSP TG's are only active when troopers are working in Sheboygan county. Here in Ozaukee Co, all WSP transmissions on 154.665 are simulcast over TG 657/05-021. I don't have a problem with the simulcast of troopers in Milwaukee, Waukesha or Washington counties, but why the simulcast of troopers from Racine, Kenosha and Walworth counties on the Ozaukee system.

Time to take ya'll to school ;)

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WSP cars assigned to Sheboygan County have a second Motorola 800 radio and are completely stand alone from the VHF system. In order for the WSP units to appear on the SBSO system, they have to transmit on 800.

The Oz arrangement is completely different. The VHF repeater traffic is simulcast on the EDACS TG so the WSP units assigned to Oz can hear this traffic on their EDACS portables when outside the car. In addtion, any base traffic from the tower serving Oz county is simulcast on the same TG. It's a wierd arrangement, but that's what the radio techs from both agencies came up with in response to management's wish list. It so happens that both agencies share a site, so the two systems are hardwired together.

It so happens that OZSO can talk directly to the WSP Comm Center on our F1 with this arrangement also, which drives me insane. Last time I checked, that was why we had Point to Point or the telephone. OZSO will just start blathering on our F1 regardless of what we are doing. Minimally, it's annoying but when they start talking over my cars I view this as an officer safety issue.

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Right... knew all that. ;) I was just saying that I don't hear anywhere near the amount of traffic on 154.935 since the district moves. Then again the MDT's sure cut down on the number of on-air record checks.. NO complaints from me on that one! :D

The "patch" or simulcast so to speak of 154.935 on SCTRS 18096 is the Plymouth tower only.. done with an 800 radio at the VHF site, I'm told. Like you said, Doesn't "simulcast" the whole district like Oz does.. they must TX on 800..

Do Troopers in Ozaukee & Milwaukee still have access to the C2C and other direct talk groups on the OZTRS? That's quiet since the district changes too. Oddly enough, most of the SE Region towers come in better in Sheboygan Co. than the NE region ones do. Doh! I miss the "Cascade" tower being in my region, nice coverage with that one. The Chilton tower's got some balls yet though.. It easily picks up the NE mobiles calling into the far northern towers as does the "Harmony" stick up north.
 
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