Still having same problems after new scanner

[racin06]

I'm still having the same problems as I indicated in the following thread: http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=12316

I went to RS today and exchanged my Pro-96 for another. I came home and downloaded my configuration from Win96 and still the same problems. I am feeling really dumb now after exchanging the scanners. Anyway, any ideas on what I am doing wrong in Win96.

Another thing the scanner is doing is going to a talkgroup like a transmission is about to come in and then the display changes to the "Scan Up." Only that this is repeated about 5 time back and forth in a fast manner with no sound heard. I also noticed that when I do hear a transmission from one person, the reply isn't heard in most cases. I'm really confused. Thanks.

 

[SAR923]

If you hard reset your Pro-96 so it's restored to system new, can you now pick up the weather frequencies? If so, you at least know it's a problem with how you've set up Win 96. You could try e-mailing your P96 file to Don Starr and see if he can advise you of the error of your ways.

 

[DonS]

If you hard reset your Pro-96 so it's restored to system new, can you now pick up the weather frequencies? If so, you at least know it's a problem with how you've set up Win 96. You could try e-mailing your P96 file to Don Starr and see if he can advise you of the error of your ways.

You might be able to attach it to this forum, as well. That way, we can all look at it - in case it's a problem that someone else (besides me) can recognize.

-Don

 

[KT4HX]

I too bought the display model at the only local RS that had the Pro-96 (using the $75 coupon). I was told it had been on display about 2 weeks like you, however, mine had been updated to V1.2U (presumably by the store). I've had no problems with mine at all - but then I didn't make any changes to the weather channels, though I am using Win96. Since I bought the display model, the saleman also added an extra year of warranty service at no cost, which I thought was a nice touch. Anyway, if you can post your current config file here, it might help to have many minds working on the issue to help you resolve it.

 

[racin06]

Attached is my Win96 file. It appears my problems are not affecting digital transmissions. My scanner works great on the Safe-T system here in Indiana. The primary problem is trunking my local county's EDACS system. Thanks.

 

[NINN27]

found your problem... you didnt put your edacs system in LCN order (DO NOT PUT ANY FREQUENCY IN CHANNEL 00). i will fix and repost

 

[DonS]

Attached is my Win96 file. It appears my problems are not affecting digital transmissions. My scanner works great on the Safe-T system here in Indiana. The primary problem is trunking my local county's EDACS system. Thanks.

Big problem #1: you started the EDACS frequencies in channel 00 in bank 0. You have forgotten the first commandment of EDACS programming:

THOU SHALT PROGRAM THY EDACS FREQUENCIES IN LOGICAL CHANNEL NUMBER (LCN) ORDER. YEAH, THE HEATHENS AND UNBELIEVERS MAY START IN CHANNEL 00, BUT THEY SHALL HEAR NAUGHT FROM THE HEAVENS, OR SHALL HEAR FALSE TESTIMONY, AS THEIR RADIO WILL BE CONFUSED.

LCNs always start at 01. Never 00. Move all of those channels (00-14) down one space. (In Win96, select channels 00-14 and press CTRL+DownArrow).

-Don

 

[jbstahr]

Attached is my Win96 file. It appears my problems are not affecting digital transmissions. My scanner works great on the Safe-T system here in Indiana. The primary problem is trunking my local county's EDACS system. Thanks.

Big problem #1: you started the EDACS frequencies in channel 00 in bank 0. You have forgotten the first commandment of EDACS programming:

THOU SHALT PROGRAM THY EDACS FREQUENCIES IN LOGICAL CHANNEL NUMBER (LCN) ORDER. YEAH, THE HEATHENS AND UNBELIEVERS MAY START IN CHANNEL 00, BUT THEY SHALL HEAR NAUGHT FROM THE HEAVENS, OR SHALL HEAR FALSE TESTIMONY, AS THEIR RADIO WILL BE CONFUSED.

LCNs always start at 01. Never 00. Move all of those channels (00-14) down one space. (In Win96, select channels 00-14 and press CTRL+DownArrow).

-Don

Too bad he didn't post his config file before taking the first radio back to the shack. We could have saved him a trip...

 

[NINN27]

try this...

 

[racin06]

Yep, that did it. I really feel like a #$%^&#$ at this time. I remember seeing that nothing was in the 00 spot the first time I uploaded my config to Win96. I thought that was strange and moved all channels up one. Then, the problems began. I'm a newbie and I will learn.

Guys, thanks for responding and helping me out. Your help is much appreciated.

 

[racin06]

Attached is my Win96 file. It appears my problems are not affecting digital transmissions. My scanner works great on the Safe-T system here in Indiana. The primary problem is trunking my local county's EDACS system. Thanks.

Big problem #1: you started the EDACS frequencies in channel 00 in bank 0. You have forgotten the first commandment of EDACS programming:

THOU SHALT PROGRAM THY EDACS FREQUENCIES IN LOGICAL CHANNEL NUMBER (LCN) ORDER. YEAH, THE HEATHENS AND UNBELIEVERS MAY START IN CHANNEL 00, BUT THEY SHALL HEAR NAUGHT FROM THE HEAVENS, OR SHALL HEAR FALSE TESTIMONY, AS THEIR RADIO WILL BE CONFUSED.

LCNs always start at 01. Never 00. Move all of those channels (00-14) down one space. (In Win96, select channels 00-14 and press CTRL+DownArrow).

-Don

Too bad he didn't post his config file before taking the first radio back to the shack. We could have saved him a trip...

What gets me is that the employee at RS didn't have a clue on what was going on. He turned on the scanner and looked at a few things, but couldn't figure things out.

 

[jbstahr]

Yep, that did it. I really feel like a #$%^&#$ at this time. I remember seeing that nothing was in the 00 spot the first time I uploaded my config to Win96. I thought that was strange and moved all channels up one. Then, the problems began. I'm a newbie and I will learn.

Guys, thanks for responding and helping me out. Your help is much appreciated.

Learning new things is part of what makes this hobby so much fun. Whether you're a newbie or an old hand, there is always plenty to learn. Thats what makes this Forum so great. We can learn from our own mistakes and also from everyone else. As you have found out, there are plenty of folks out there willing to help you out.

 

[jerneedog]

Super...you guys helped him out!

I had no idea what to tell him...glad there
were some people here that could help out.

Great job folks!

 

[Voyager]

Super...you guys helped him out!

I had no idea what to tell him...glad there
were some people here that could help out.

Great job folks!

But, that doesn't explain the lack of WX reception.

Joe M.

 

[racin06]

Super...you guys helped him out!

I had no idea what to tell him...glad there
were some people here that could help out.

Great job folks!

But, that doesn't explain the lack of WX reception.

Joe M.

Sorry, my WX reception starting working well after I did a soft reset of the unit.

 

[racin06]

Super...you guys helped him out!

I had no idea what to tell him...glad there
were some people here that could help out.

Great job folks!

But, that doesn't explain the lack of WX reception.

Joe M.

Sorry, my WX reception starting working well after I did a soft reset of the unit.

 

[Voyager]

Super...you guys helped him out!

I had no idea what to tell him...glad there
were some people here that could help out.

Great job folks!

But, that doesn't explain the lack of WX reception.

Joe M.

Sorry, my WX reception starting working well after I did a soft reset of the unit.

OK

Joe M.

 

[wadeless28]

Attached is my Win96 file. It appears my problems are not affecting digital transmissions. My scanner works great on the Safe-T system here in Indiana. The primary problem is trunking my local county's EDACS system. Thanks.

Big problem #1: you started the EDACS frequencies in channel 00 in bank 0. You have forgotten the first commandment of EDACS programming:

THOU SHALT PROGRAM THY EDACS FREQUENCIES IN LOGICAL CHANNEL NUMBER (LCN) ORDER. YEAH, THE HEATHENS AND UNBELIEVERS MAY START IN CHANNEL 00, BUT THEY SHALL HEAR NAUGHT FROM THE HEAVENS, OR SHALL HEAR FALSE TESTIMONY, AS THEIR RADIO WILL BE CONFUSED.

LCNs always start at 01. Never 00. Move all of those channels (00-14) down one space. (In Win96, select channels 00-14 and press CTRL+DownArrow).

-Don

Would this also be the answer to my problem with not being able to pick up EDACS on my Pro-2067 and Pro-95?? I know I have the LCN right should I just move the freqs to channel 01 and leave 00 blank. I would test it right now but I'm not near an EDACs system at this time.

Mike

 

[loumaag]

What LCN means!

Everyone:

It is time for the semi-annual lesson in what LCN means. If you look at the frequency list in RR for any system which requires a frequency to be in a Logical Channel Number you will notice that there is a small number in the little block which contains the frequency. That little number is the LCN. You do have to look carefully, as the numbers are smaller and somewhat lighter than the actual frequency number. Whatever the small LCN is; that is the proper frequency slot for you to put the frequency in your scan bank. If you put a frequency in any other position, the frequency will not be chosen properly.

You will note I did not say start in any particular position and I did not use the word order. Why? Becuase it is not the way LCN works. Systems that use LCN's may not start at position one (1); they may not fill in the slots in order; the only two rules about LCN are that:
1- They must fit within the MAX number of slots available for the particular system in question.
And
2- There is no position zero (0).

There are maximum numbers of LCN's, differing on what type of system you are dealing with. There are twenty (20) for LTR and twenty-five (25) for EDACS. There are no rules about skipping or not skipping slots, so there are LTR and EDACS systems out there which have "holes" in the lineup.

Now, providing we (here at RR.com) have the LCN's listed properly and you have a trunk tracking radio which will track the subject system; if you put them in the proper place, the system will be tracked.

Hopefully this will take care of this for the next six months or so. :wink:

 

[wadeless28]

Hmmmm, Thanks for your sarcasm loumaag. But I understand that. I have scanners that do track the EDAC's system in question. But for some un-known reason (at least to myself) I cannot pick up the system in question on these two (the 95 and 2067) scanners. I am not in area long enough to be able to figure out what exactly the problem is and do not have a computer to do a complete reprogram at the time I am in this area.

So I was wondering if I must be doing something wrong programming the scanner and just havent found it.

We are not all complete idiots around here, just paritial ones. :wink:

Mike