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This morning I was listening to some OPP when I heard dispatch say over the air "all units go to simplex". Then within the hour, I couldn't pick up the Stratford tower. Maintenance being done? Anyone know? Anyone also not picking it up today? Anyone know when it will be back?
 

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windsor tower also down

Maybe for an hour, comms went on using the Essex tower. Now back.
 

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Still nothing, 3 scanners, 3 antenna's & no Stratford. Luckily I can snag enough Kitchener to make due.
 

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Still nothing, 3 scanners, 3 antenna's & no Stratford. Luckily I can snag enough Kitchener to make due.

I can confirm that Stratford is down. All of the neighboring sites are showing "Stratford" in Failsoft mode.

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Looks like they may have removed 142.83000.

Let me run Trunk88 for a few hours to be sure though.
 

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Kimberley is currently down.

Looks like it's PM time.
 

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I'm currently seeing 142.1400, 142.3050, 142.7400, 143.0700, 143.1450 and 143.3100 on the Stratford site. Control channel is on 143.1450 and only 142.3050, 142.7400 and 143.3100 seem to be carrying any traffic.
 

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I can confirm that Stratford is down. All of the neighboring sites are showing "Stratford" in Failsoft mode.

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Do you know what "failsoft" means on the fleetnet system?
Here's Waterloo Regions' 800mhz systems description of failsoft.
Quite different than a tower going offline,
Level 1 Failsoft Mode
This is an operating mode that results from equipment failure located at the system control point. Failsoft mode is generally only noticed in Dispatch as it mostly affects functions used in Dispatch. Radio use and talk groups are as normal, however it is not possible to use higher functions such as patch or simulselect. The system can operate effectively in failsoft mode for a lengthy period of time and does not represent a hazardous condition to firefighters. The WRVRS has operated in failsoft mode on several occasions.
 

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Looks like they may have removed 142.83000.

Let me run Trunk88 for a few hours to be sure though.


Ran Trunk88 for 24 hours and 142.8300 showed up but in pink like the Alternate CC. Maybe Andrew can enlighten us on the reason for the different colour.

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My understanding is that the system says it's there, but it's pink (or whatever colour you choose) because it hasn't seen any voice activity yet.
 

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Oh ok, learned something new.

I cleared all the previous channel information out of the 782D.CTL for site 33 before running Trunk 88 and that is the channels it shows in use. It showed all but the 142.8300 last night but that one didn't show up until sometime today.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if 142.8300Mhz disappeared or saw reduced usage.

I would consider it kind of close to Orangeville for it to be used at that site.
 

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Ran Trunk88 for 24 hours and 142.8300 showed up but in pink like the Alternate CC. Maybe Andrew can enlighten us on the reason for the different colour.
Channels that are in a zone's channel list (e.g. channels that TRUNK88 saw at some point in the past) that haven't been used for a period of time (e.g. a period that exceeds that defined by TRUNK88's Inactive Channel Timeout parameter) are displayed in the color specified by the Inactive Channel Color parameter.

That color would be color #13 which, in a Windows console application, defaults to that ghastly bright magenta. FYI, I would be most grateful if you would take a moment to change the RGB values for colors 5 (default = magenta) and 13 (default = bright magenta) in the properties of the shortcut/icon that you use to run TRUNK88. Detailed instructions are included in the ReadMe file that comes with every TRUNK88 release. Suggested RGB values for color #5 are 70-70-70. For color #13, 140-120-80 looks nice. Feel free to tweak them to what you like best, but please lose the magenta...


A channel that is displayed in the Inactive Channel Color may be:

- a regular channel; if the system/zone isn't very active, channels can go unused for long periods. Typically, most of the channels will end up displayed in this manner on a quiet system/zone. The current control channel will always display as an active channel.

- a channel that was recorded in error, perhaps a bad OSW decode occurred, or the user briefly tuned to another zone's control channel where the channel was in use and TRUNK88 didn't have enough time to detect the zone change. If a channel was recorded in error, its Comms Count will be very low (check via System Command / Edit Channels). You can try deleting a channel and see if it eventually comes back (e.g. gets used). A channel entry will only be recreated if the system is seen using it (e.g. as a voice or control channel); systems only broadcast voice channel information when a channel is carrying traffic - there is no way for TRUNK88 to log channels until the system uses them. If you have enabled Detailed Comms Logging and FG Activity Logging, you can search through your .log files for channel grants (voice traffic) on a specific channel/frequency to see when a specific voice channel was logged.

- a channel that is no longer in use, e.g. removed from service. You can try deleting it and see if it comes back, or just record its current Comms Count and see if it ever goes up.

- a protected channel; Protected channels are used for voice traffic only when all non-protected channels are already in use or otherwise unavailable to fulfill a channel grant request (e.g. out of service).


Reasons for protecting a channel:

- it is an alternate control channel (ACC); it is protected to increase the likelihood of it being immediately available when needed (e.g. when the primary control channel fails)

- it is an interconnect-capable channel (e.g. it is connected to a phone line and selected subscriber radios can make and receive half duplex phone calls); it is protected to increase the likelihood of it being available when needed for phone traffic. With cellular phone service being so cheap these days, most trunking systems don't have interconnect capability.

- it is a digital-capable channel in a mixed mode (digital and analog) system that has some analog-only repeater channels; it is protected to increase the likelihood of it being available for digital traffic.

- it is a channel that may receive interference from another system (a different trunking or conventional system or another zone within the same system) or may interfere with another system / zone; it is protected to minimize the amount of service degradation that users experience.

- it is a channel that has other issues (poor RX sensitivity, low TX power, prone to overheat / fail / trigger alarms, etc.); it is protected to increase the likelihood that the techs will get a good night's sleep every night.
 
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