Telex C-6200 console?

[fog]

Is anyone familiar with these consoles?

I've got an old tone-based console and a couple Telex IP-223 units for a never-started project. Since this is all in-building (and that building is my house ), going IP-based rather than using tone signaling is appealing.

From the scant product literature I've seen, it seems as though their C-6200 "hybrid" console may be able to work with the IP-223s, and there are a few used/cheap-ish C6200 consoles on eBay. There is virtually no detailed information available online, though, about the C-6200. If I get the IP-223 working with some radios here (a project unto itself), can the C-6200 be pointed at their IP (on the same LAN segment) and "just work" as a console? Or does there need to be other infrastructure as well? Trying to figure out if this is a realistic undertaking or not.

 

[Firebuff880]

Is anyone familiar with these consoles?

I've got an old tone-based console and a couple Telex IP-223 units for a never-started project. Since this is all in-building (and that building is my house ), going IP-based rather than using tone signaling is appealing.

From the scant product literature I've seen, it seems as though their C-6200 "hybrid" console may be able to work with the IP-223s, and there are a few used/cheap-ish C6200 consoles on eBay. There is virtually no detailed information available online, though, about the C-6200. If I get the IP-223 working with some radios here (a project unto itself), can the C-6200 be pointed at their IP (on the same LAN segment) and "just work" as a console? Or does there need to be other infrastructure as well? Trying to figure out if this is a realistic undertaking or not.

YES --

"The C-6200 can also be used without line cards as an IP console, with access to radio/telephone resources distributed over IP networks over a connection to a Telex IP-223 Remote Adapter Panel."

 

[Reelfishguy]

Can you use an IP-1616 ? I may have some

 

[Firebuff880]

I think the answer to the CP-1616 is also YES. But you may want to get a manual double-check check as I don't think I ever installed a 1616.

 

[fog]

Can you use an IP-1616 ? I may have some

Telex (now Bosch?) documentation is really hard to find on either of these. But, based on a PDF of an old Telex brochure, it sounds like the IP-1616 has similar capabilities to the C-6200, just with fewer channels and all-IP (i.e., no analog line cards).

If you have some lying around, I could be interested in making a deal for one of them!

 

[PtPComm]

I wish I had seen this post sooner. i have a fairly large Telex IP system. somewhere around 18-20 IP-223. several C-6200, IP-1616, IP-2002 and a computer running 24 Line Csoft. everthying is on a Cisco IPSEC DMVPN network, three hubs and many spokes. The IP-223 use multicast which is kind of a pain and gets dropped periodically. but come back up. spokes with small bandwidth suffer the most.

if you run everything on a simple layer two network no problem. when you go to layer three it is a litttle more tricky.

as for radios. mostly kenwood, some motorola. and one ip-223 inteefaces to a couple JPS voters for a couple systems i have. even doing telex to JPS bridging to use with Zello. Kenwood radios are easy to interface to and channel steer/ control. Motorola ones I usually use BCD logic to channel steer or scan. All the telex stuff is really easy to configure. I have gone as far as setting up IP-223 as tone remote adapters and connecting to tone remotes to be able to talk on distant radios.

For someone who wants to have a bunch of radios at thier house in one place but use them from lots of different rooms/ places it is very simple to setup. You can make the system as complex as you want!!

Jim

 

[70cutlass442]

I wish I had seen this post sooner. i have a fairly large Telex IP system. somewhere around 18-20 IP-223. several C-6200, IP-1616, IP-2002 and a computer running 24 Line Csoft. everthying is on a Cisco IPSEC DMVPN network, three hubs and many spokes. The IP-223 use multicast which is kind of a pain and gets dropped periodically. but come back up. spokes with small bandwidth suffer the most.

if you run everything on a simple layer two network no problem. when you go to layer three it is a litttle more tricky.

as for radios. mostly kenwood, some motorola. and one ip-223 inteefaces to a couple JPS voters for a couple systems i have. even doing telex to JPS bridging to use with Zello. Kenwood radios are easy to interface to and channel steer/ control. Motorola ones I usually use BCD logic to channel steer or scan. All the telex stuff is really easy to configure. I have gone as far as setting up IP-223 as tone remote adapters and connecting to tone remotes to be able to talk on distant radios.

For someone who wants to have a bunch of radios at thier house in one place but use them from lots of different rooms/ places it is very simple to setup. You can make the system as complex as you want!!

Jim

For what it's worth, we are using a product from Datacom for Business Netowrks (DCB Networks) called a XT Hex. It is a simple to configure VPN that gives you a layer 2 over WAN with very little setup. Seems to work well for us and has solved the routing issue with multicast.

 

[PtPComm]

I will have to look at getting a couple of those. Is it IS-IS topology or routed subnets?

Jim.

 

[70cutlass442]

I will have to look at getting a couple of those. Is it IS-IS topology or routed subnets?

Jim.

I will admit, I am not network savey so I can't answer that. What I will say is these are simple to configure. They are GUI based, so no new CL to learn. The public side of the device is routable no different than any other router. But the LAN side is a layer 2 tunnel between the server and its clients as well as client to client (hub/spoke). I explain it as a long ethernet cable with the server acting as a simple switch.

It is very straight forward and easy to deploy (I managed to learn it). There are probably lesser priced routers that can accomplish the same thing, but you will not find something this simple to use.

I have a four site P25 network that uses multicast. Since two of the sites have no private network connectivity, we had to find a solution to get the multicast over the variety of connections. The server resides on a fiber connection with a static IP. Two of the clients connect to that via the internet. One is another business fiber connection, the other a simple cable modem from Spectrum w/ a dynamic IP. The model we use is capable of only 8 clients, but they have more robust products for more clients and bandwidth.