Texas DPS ?
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JohnWayne
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155.370 seems to be a pretty common interagency frequency across the nation. I, too, have heard local SOs using 155.370 in a repeatered fashion. It seems to be a popular thing to do in some areas between Abilene and San Antonio.
155.475 is called "DPS USA" around here. They use it to coordinate their meal activities and discuss marital issues most of the time. It is a pretty busy channel.
The 155.505 CLE is pretty active here. They do a lot of narcotics and Auto Theft Task Force sting operations on it. You usually hear them on channel 5, which is the talk around. When they get out of range they will switch to channel 6, which is the repeater. I know this because I hear them all the time saying stuff to the effect of "You're scratchy on channel 5, turn to channel 6." There may not be a CLE repeater in every town, just like there is not a narcotics repeater (159.090/154.935) in every town.
Regarding License and Weights, aka Commercial Vehicle Enforcement. Around here, we are in region 5, which means that CVE units are 56xx. It may be different in your region.
Here is Texas DPS unit designators in a nutshell:
Most units are 4 digits. The first digit is the region that they are in, 5 for West Texas, 2 for Houston area etc.
The second digit is kind of a subdivision of the first digit, or the region, and tells what regional office you report to. For example, 51xx and 53xx units report to the Lubbock regional office, while 50xx and 52xx units report to the Amarillo regional office. There are also 56xx units which are CVE and report to the Lubbock office, and 58xx which are CVE and report to the Amarillo regional office. Also note that all 51xx units report to the 5110 sergeant and all 531x units report the 5310 sergeant.
The third digit is another level of subdivision that describes your "patrol area" and what sub-regional (drivers license) office you report to. For example, 511x and 531x report to the Lubbock office directly, 512x and 532x report to the Plainview office, and 515x and 535x units report to the Levelland office. These "sub offices" are generally drivers licenses offices in smaller towns and do not have communications centers. If the third digit of your unit number is a 0 then you are some sort of higher-up like a corporal or lieutenant, etc. 5100 is in charge of all region 5A (Lubbock area) operations, etc.
The fourth digit is just a random digit that you are assigned. The only special one is xxx0, which is that particular section's sergeant.
There are also many special unit numbers which do not fit in the above mold:
1xx: Aviation unit. These are non-regional and report directly to the Director.
7xxx: Victims assistance
RNxx where N is your region: Radio techs. R502 is a region 5 tech, etc. Radio techs will also fill in for dispatchers occasionally, so I assuming they have at least a TCLEOSE Basic Telecommunicator certification.
90xx: CLE people like Auto Theft Task Force, Narcotics, etc
90Rx where R is your region: Drivers License people
4Axx: Rangers. I am still uncertain how their designators work; they could be 5Bxx, or any other combination, also.
KRxx where R is your region: K9 units
There are also a bunch of civilians in the 9xxx and 7xxx ranges. I have also recently heard some callsigns like "950" and other three-digit combinations. I am unsure what these are. Pretty much everyone in DPS has a radio callsign; both sworn and civilians.
If anyone has any more info I'd love to hear it.
Jeff
155.475 is called "DPS USA" around here. They use it to coordinate their meal activities and discuss marital issues most of the time. It is a pretty busy channel.
The 155.505 CLE is pretty active here. They do a lot of narcotics and Auto Theft Task Force sting operations on it. You usually hear them on channel 5, which is the talk around. When they get out of range they will switch to channel 6, which is the repeater. I know this because I hear them all the time saying stuff to the effect of "You're scratchy on channel 5, turn to channel 6." There may not be a CLE repeater in every town, just like there is not a narcotics repeater (159.090/154.935) in every town.
Regarding License and Weights, aka Commercial Vehicle Enforcement. Around here, we are in region 5, which means that CVE units are 56xx. It may be different in your region.
Here is Texas DPS unit designators in a nutshell:
Most units are 4 digits. The first digit is the region that they are in, 5 for West Texas, 2 for Houston area etc.
The second digit is kind of a subdivision of the first digit, or the region, and tells what regional office you report to. For example, 51xx and 53xx units report to the Lubbock regional office, while 50xx and 52xx units report to the Amarillo regional office. There are also 56xx units which are CVE and report to the Lubbock office, and 58xx which are CVE and report to the Amarillo regional office. Also note that all 51xx units report to the 5110 sergeant and all 531x units report the 5310 sergeant.
The third digit is another level of subdivision that describes your "patrol area" and what sub-regional (drivers license) office you report to. For example, 511x and 531x report to the Lubbock office directly, 512x and 532x report to the Plainview office, and 515x and 535x units report to the Levelland office. These "sub offices" are generally drivers licenses offices in smaller towns and do not have communications centers. If the third digit of your unit number is a 0 then you are some sort of higher-up like a corporal or lieutenant, etc. 5100 is in charge of all region 5A (Lubbock area) operations, etc.
The fourth digit is just a random digit that you are assigned. The only special one is xxx0, which is that particular section's sergeant.
There are also many special unit numbers which do not fit in the above mold:
1xx: Aviation unit. These are non-regional and report directly to the Director.
7xxx: Victims assistance
RNxx where N is your region: Radio techs. R502 is a region 5 tech, etc. Radio techs will also fill in for dispatchers occasionally, so I assuming they have at least a TCLEOSE Basic Telecommunicator certification.
90xx: CLE people like Auto Theft Task Force, Narcotics, etc
90Rx where R is your region: Drivers License people
4Axx: Rangers. I am still uncertain how their designators work; they could be 5Bxx, or any other combination, also.
KRxx where R is your region: K9 units
There are also a bunch of civilians in the 9xxx and 7xxx ranges. I have also recently heard some callsigns like "950" and other three-digit combinations. I am unsure what these are. Pretty much everyone in DPS has a radio callsign; both sworn and civilians.
If anyone has any more info I'd love to hear it.
Jeff
nd5y
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Part of that list posted above is probably wrong.
Ch 5 is 155.505 simplex
Ch 6 is 155.505 RX/154.92 TX
and have been since the late 70s when they first went to high band.
I have heard the 159.09/154.935 repeater and 159.09 simplex
referred to as Ch 16, 17, 18 and 19 at various times the past few years,
which conflicts with some of the 159.21/154.695 repeaters.
I was told once that the newer radios have alpha numeric displays
and no channel numbers, however I have never verified this.
I still hear the interoperability channels referred to on the air by their
old names which, according to the plan, are no longer to be used.
Tom ND5Y
Ch 5 is 155.505 simplex
Ch 6 is 155.505 RX/154.92 TX
and have been since the late 70s when they first went to high band.
I have heard the 159.09/154.935 repeater and 159.09 simplex
referred to as Ch 16, 17, 18 and 19 at various times the past few years,
which conflicts with some of the 159.21/154.695 repeaters.
I was told once that the newer radios have alpha numeric displays
and no channel numbers, however I have never verified this.
I still hear the interoperability channels referred to on the air by their
old names which, according to the plan, are no longer to be used.
Tom ND5Y
JohnWayne
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I don't know why I kept saying 159.090 instead of 155.505 in the above post, but I went back and edited it clarity. I am glad to see that someone else in a different region agrees with the channel 5/6 talkaround/repeater setup.
Jeff
Jeff
JohnWayne
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Forgot to mention that for the past 8-10 years they have been installing Motorola Systems 9000 Astro Spectras in the cars. These do have an 11 character alphanumeric display (A9 head).
I am traveling from Lubbock to Galveston today, so I will be verifying some county SO and fire information on the way. Nothing better to do for 600 miles!
Jeff
I am traveling from Lubbock to Galveston today, so I will be verifying some county SO and fire information on the way. Nothing better to do for 600 miles!
Jeff
n5gqb
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Boy this has been an informative dps discussion!
Been scanning for many years and still learn stuff all the time.
Anyway, does anyone know where the various repeater sites 159.210 (in relation to pl tone) are at? For example ch 15 with the tone of 127.3 is the tower located in Flynn, TX and primary is used by Bryan dps base. How about the others?
Thanks, Sly
Been scanning for many years and still learn stuff all the time.
Anyway, does anyone know where the various repeater sites 159.210 (in relation to pl tone) are at? For example ch 15 with the tone of 127.3 is the tower located in Flynn, TX and primary is used by Bryan dps base. How about the others?
Thanks, Sly
I have DPS Narcotics Using 159.0900 - 154.9350 PL: 162.2 Seems to be a Big Surveillance Channel. I have heard DPS Helo talking with Ground Units, in the Sherman, to Tyler area.
What I do not know, is where EXACTLY this Frequency comes in the DPS Bandplan Line up.
Channel-5/6 CLE seems to be almost dead from Dallas Northwards, though 155.5050 has a Repeater License in Cedar Hill. I Never hear it active.
As for the fellow that iniated this forum with the Question of DPS-sherman Mobiles. Remember this, TxDPS are the State Police, and VHF Users Which most Rural Texas utilize VHF. Trooper Radios can access Many Police Department Frequencies.
if 1187 is assigned to Grayson/Collin/Fannin Co. He has access to 154.7850-Grayson Co. SO, 154.7250 Fannin Co. SO and have the Collin Co. Motorola TRS on a HT. Plus, they have NPSPAC 1 thru 5 Regional Mutual Aid (3-800 Mhz. Channels) and will most of the time do direct Car to Car Traffic with other Law Enforcement on 154.9500 Designated Texas Law-1 or State Inter-City Mobile (3)
Chances are When he is running Traffic on 75 and say 121 he will use 159.2100 PL: 110.9 to Contact Sherman, but if the Radio is Bussy, He may call Sulfer Springs (159.2100 PL: 107.2)
In D/FW all Dallas Units, Kaufman, Some Ellis, some Tarrant, Rockwall and Southern Collin use 155.4600 For Primary Operations. Dallas TOLLWAY Units use 155.4450 PL: 107.2 and The NTTA Repeater 151.1300/157.3500 PL: 162.2 for 99% of there Traffic. Since the NTTA have switched to Nextel.
While Waco, Hill Co. and more rural areas use 155.4450 PL: 162.2 Primary-B for Operations. Why it was Nick-Named "Metro" is beyond me, as it is seldom use in a "Metro" capacity.
another Great Thread. Ya'all have a safe 4th. and Watch out for the ranger behind you! "Cause thats where the Rangers gonna be"
What I do not know, is where EXACTLY this Frequency comes in the DPS Bandplan Line up.
Channel-5/6 CLE seems to be almost dead from Dallas Northwards, though 155.5050 has a Repeater License in Cedar Hill. I Never hear it active.
As for the fellow that iniated this forum with the Question of DPS-sherman Mobiles. Remember this, TxDPS are the State Police, and VHF Users Which most Rural Texas utilize VHF. Trooper Radios can access Many Police Department Frequencies.
if 1187 is assigned to Grayson/Collin/Fannin Co. He has access to 154.7850-Grayson Co. SO, 154.7250 Fannin Co. SO and have the Collin Co. Motorola TRS on a HT. Plus, they have NPSPAC 1 thru 5 Regional Mutual Aid (3-800 Mhz. Channels) and will most of the time do direct Car to Car Traffic with other Law Enforcement on 154.9500 Designated Texas Law-1 or State Inter-City Mobile (3)
Chances are When he is running Traffic on 75 and say 121 he will use 159.2100 PL: 110.9 to Contact Sherman, but if the Radio is Bussy, He may call Sulfer Springs (159.2100 PL: 107.2)
In D/FW all Dallas Units, Kaufman, Some Ellis, some Tarrant, Rockwall and Southern Collin use 155.4600 For Primary Operations. Dallas TOLLWAY Units use 155.4450 PL: 107.2 and The NTTA Repeater 151.1300/157.3500 PL: 162.2 for 99% of there Traffic. Since the NTTA have switched to Nextel.
While Waco, Hill Co. and more rural areas use 155.4450 PL: 162.2 Primary-B for Operations. Why it was Nick-Named "Metro" is beyond me, as it is seldom use in a "Metro" capacity.
another Great Thread. Ya'all have a safe 4th. and Watch out for the ranger behind you! "Cause thats where the Rangers gonna be"
nd5y
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n5gqb said:
I have identified a few of them. I wish I had the time to travel
and get the tones for all of them.
107.2 CH 11 Canton (Tyler), Crosbyton (Childress/Lubbock)
110.9 CH 12 Denton (Sherman), Vernon (Childress)
118.8 CH 13 Waxahachie (Waco), Pontotoc (Lampasas)
123.0 CH 14 Decatur (Wichita Falls), Fairfield (Waco), Loraine (Abilene)
127.3 CH 15 Bryan
136.5 CH 16 Benjamin (Childress), Paris (Sulphur Springs), Temple (Lampasas)
141.3 CH 17 Aledo (Mineral Wells), Throckmorton (Mineral Wells)
146.2 CH 18 Glen Rose (Waco)
151.4 CH 19 Greenville (Sulphur Springs)
Tom ND5Y
n5gqb
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ok that helps some. Looks like the pl's are reused on 159.210. I can hear dps units calling for "Conroe" on 159.210 with a pl of 151.4. (Probably about 60-70 miles from me) I don't know if its designated as channel 19 in their radios though.
sly n5gqb
sly n5gqb
In the Map section of Police Call there is a pretty accurate map for the Locations of the TLE Repeaters. They are shown as a diamond box with the Operation Channel in the center.
I almost wonder if 159.0975/154.9425 follow suite as CLE channels 10 thru 19. it would make sense for CLE and TLE to operate in this manor, since rarely do CLE make appearences on TLE Repeaters. this also would account for the Numerization conflict(s) on the numeric bandplan. This is mearly a thought.
Happy 4th.
MT
I almost wonder if 159.0975/154.9425 follow suite as CLE channels 10 thru 19. it would make sense for CLE and TLE to operate in this manor, since rarely do CLE make appearences on TLE Repeaters. this also would account for the Numerization conflict(s) on the numeric bandplan. This is mearly a thought.
Happy 4th.
MT
nd5y
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I took all the 159.21 licenses from the FCC web site,
combined them with the Police Call (2003) map and made a spreadsheet.
The entries are sorted by county and city.
That Police Call map is old and there appears to be several new repeaters
and several that have been relocated and I think a lot of them are bogus because it appears that every location
that has 155.46 or 155.445 licensed also has 159.09 and 159.21 repeaters.
Also a few of the diamonds on the map are crammed together so you can't tell the exact location. This is why there are lots of entries
with no tone/channel info.
Tom ND5Y
combined them with the Police Call (2003) map and made a spreadsheet.
The entries are sorted by county and city.
That Police Call map is old and there appears to be several new repeaters
and several that have been relocated and I think a lot of them are bogus because it appears that every location
that has 155.46 or 155.445 licensed also has 159.09 and 159.21 repeaters.
Also a few of the diamonds on the map are crammed together so you can't tell the exact location. This is why there are lots of entries
with no tone/channel info.
Tom ND5Y
Recently heard on 159.210, New Braunfels repeater, one DPS unit tell another to 'go to digital two'
DPS/Digital APCO-25 ?
I am starting to see DPS switching over to APCO-25 digital frequencies and so I am wondering what type of radio/scanner would I need to hear them? Will a BC-780xlt work or would I have to upgrade to one of the newer unidens?
I am starting to see DPS switching over to APCO-25 digital frequencies and so I am wondering what type of radio/scanner would I need to hear them? Will a BC-780xlt work or would I have to upgrade to one of the newer unidens?
Re: DPS/Digital APCO-25 ?
The BC-780xlt does not decode APCO 25 voice. So you will need to upgrade.remod said:
DPS/Digital APCO-25 ?
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