The Valley Hospital - HEAR Radio, 155.340

[railtrailbiker]

Are ambulances still using 155.34 to contact The Valley Hospital’s ER?

 

[KD2JFA]

The HEAR system itself is hit or miss, many hospitals don't even have it plugged in, let alone turned on. I believe there are still a few that utilize it, but most now just call via a phoneline.

 

[Alarmguy]

Not really. This is from 2018: Community Hospital Uses Mobile App to Improve Communications,…

 

[murse_joe]

The ambulances have the capability but hospitals don't listen to em. It's all done by cell phone and some apps now.

The hospitals are supposed to still have the radios. In theory they'd use them when cell towers are down or overloaded. But I doubt anybody knows where the radios are in most ERs, much less how to use them.

 

[mondaro]

The state OEMS mandates that each Ambulance in the state of New Jersey has the JEMS plan for review

1) JEMS 1 - your home freq.
2) JEMS 2 - HEAR Radio - 155.340
3) JEMS 3 - 155.280
4) JEMS 4 - 153.785 - Same as Spen 4

In my professional opinion 1000% useless -

 

[murse_joe]

JEMS 2 has lost usefulness with cell phones, JEMS 3 is EMS only so it's limited, and nobody calls their own dispatch "JEMS 1"

But JEMS 4 is used all the time. Being the same as SPEN 4 it's the easiest interop channel that you know everybody has. (In Jersey at least) But trying to fumble and tell people to switch to Utac41 or VMED29 is even worse. FD and medevacs can also coordinate on that channel.

 

[ITWorx]

JEMS 2 has lost usefulness with cell phones, JEMS 3 is EMS only so it's limited, and nobody calls their own dispatch "JEMS 1"

But JEMS 4 is used all the time. Being the same as SPEN 4 it's the easiest interop channel that you know everybody has. (In Jersey at least) But trying to fumble and tell people to switch to Utac41 or VMED29 is even worse. FD and medevacs can also coordinate on that channel.

I agree but also will disagree. JEMS 2 shouldn't just disappear (even though hospitals don't necessarily use it, or just neglect it which is wrong.)

JEMS 2 still has a place for use of communications - Take the national AT&T outage the other day - Tell me outside of using a phone that has no service, how else would you communicate with the hospital to notify them they have an inbound patient? Oh wait - JEMS 2, who would've thought, right?

I still use JEMS 2 at hospitals that still have their HEAR radio turned up - It's honestly a lot faster and takes less time.

If a hospital gets rid of their HEAR Radio, or disconnects it, is that even legal? That's the question I have.

 

[n3obl]

I agree but also will disagree. JEMS 2 shouldn't just disappear (even though hospitals don't necessarily use it, or just neglect it which is wrong.)

JEMS 2 still has a place for use of communications - Take the national AT&T outage the other day - Tell me outside of using a phone that has no service, how else would you communicate with the hospital to notify them they have an inbound patient? Oh wait - JEMS 2, who would've thought, right?

I still use JEMS 2 at hospitals that still have their HEAR radio turned up - It's honestly a lot faster and takes less time.

If a hospital gets rid of their HEAR Radio, or disconnects it, is that even legal? That's the question I have.

I can give a quick hospital notification in 20 seconds via radio. On phone I get some people want to have a conversation.

Western pa still uses some 155.340/155.400 radios in pgh area.

 

[K2NEC]

I can give a quick hospital notification in 20 seconds via radio. On phone I get some people want to have a conversation.

Western pa still uses some 155.340/155.400 radios in pgh area.

Plus, I don't like pulling my personal phone out with questionably contaminated gloves to be put on hold for 5 minutes all to give a 30 second report that the hospital may or may not listen to anyway

 

[murse_joe]

JEMS 2 shouldn't disappear, but which hospitals actually monitor it? Unless they use it, they're never gonna know to use it in an emergency.

 

[ITWorx]

JEMS 2 shouldn't disappear, but which hospitals actually monitor it? Unless they use it, they're never gonna know to use it in an emergency.

From what I know ---

Newton MC - The HEAR radio is missing

Saint Anthonys - Works and is used

Orange Regional/Garnet Middletown - They say they do but i've not tried it yet

Morristown does

Chilton - Not sure if they do or don't, will have to check

OMC - Doesn't have a HEAR radio/missing

HMC - Unsure if they have an HEAR Radio

SJ Wayne and Paterson - Unsure

Hunterdon - Unsure

 

[K2NEC]

Chilton does not, they recently renovated their ER and never put their HEAR radio back. They now rely on phone calls and Twiage

SJ Wayne and Paterson have them but I don't think I've ever heard anyone reply on them

 

[Markscan]

Mountainside used to have it but after renovations it is gone.

 

[Metronorthradio]

I know this isn’t New Jersey but up here in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, and mostly northern New York. They utilize HEAR 1. It’s one of those channels you could always catch action on.

 

[mondaro]

St Barnabas in Livingston was working not too many years ago, New Jersey DOES NOT have a true interop system that all BLS / ALS
can be accessed at any distance. sadly, we have to carry 3 to 6 portables on a scene just for coordination and to communicate with dispatch centers and mutual aid, something is wrong with that picture.

 

[KD2JFA]

It is still a requirement for hospitals to have it, Whether or not the state enforces or checks on it is another question in and of itself.

NJAC Title 8:43G. Hospital Licensing Standards

Section 8:43G-12.9 – Emergency department space and environment



(a) The emergency department shall meet criteria established by the Guidelines for Design and Construction of Residential Health, Care, and Support Facilities, 2014 edition. Facility Guidelines Institute; American Society for Healthcare Engineering, which is incorporated herein by reference, as amended and supplemented, and is available from the Facility Guidelines Institute, Inc., 350 N. Saint Paul St., Suite 100, Dallas, TX 75201. Website: www.fgiguidelines.org. E-mail: info@fgiguidelines.org.

(b) The emergency department shall have the necessary monitoring devices, supplies, and equipment to meet the needs of patients of all ages. Availability of pediatric equipment shall be in accordance with American Academy of Pediatrics; Committee on Pediatric Emergency Medicine; American College of Emergency Physicians, Pediatric Committee; Emergency Nurses Association Pediatric Committee. "Joint Policy Statement--Guidelines for Care of Children in the Emergency Department." PEDIATRICS. Oct 2009; 124(4); 1233-1243, which is available at http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/124/4/1233.full.pdf.

(c) The emergency department shall be equipped to stabilize all patients.

(d) The emergency department shall be equipped with, at least, patient monitoring equipment and resuscitation equipment.

(e) The emergency department shall have a functioning two way communications system operating on an assigned frequency of 155.340 MHz for communicating with ambulance services about arriving patients.

N.J. Admin. Code § 8:43G-12.9

 

[mondaro]

It is still a requirement for hospitals to have it, Whether or not the state enforces or checks on it is another question in and of itself.

NJAC Title 8:43G. Hospital Licensing Standards

Section 8:43G-12.9 – Emergency department space and environment



(a) The emergency department shall meet criteria established by the Guidelines for Design and Construction of Residential Health, Care, and Support Facilities, 2014 edition. Facility Guidelines Institute; American Society for Healthcare Engineering, which is incorporated herein by reference, as amended and supplemented, and is available from the Facility Guidelines Institute, Inc., 350 N. Saint Paul St., Suite 100, Dallas, TX 75201. Website: www.fgiguidelines.org. E-mail: info@fgiguidelines.org.

(b) The emergency department shall have the necessary monitoring devices, supplies, and equipment to meet the needs of patients of all ages. Availability of pediatric equipment shall be in accordance with American Academy of Pediatrics; Committee on Pediatric Emergency Medicine; American College of Emergency Physicians, Pediatric Committee; Emergency Nurses Association Pediatric Committee. "Joint Policy Statement--Guidelines for Care of Children in the Emergency Department." PEDIATRICS. Oct 2009; 124(4); 1233-1243, which is available at http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/124/4/1233.full.pdf.

(c) The emergency department shall be equipped to stabilize all patients.

(d) The emergency department shall be equipped with, at least, patient monitoring equipment and resuscitation equipment.

(e) The emergency department shall have a functioning two way communications system operating on an assigned frequency of 155.340 MHz for communicating with ambulance services about arriving patients.

N.J. Admin. Code § 8:43G-12.9

1000% B.S. - 99.9% don't have it !! end of discussion !!!

 

[wtp]

i just checked the FCC site and they have 43 licenses listed as active.
so you might want to adjust those numbers.
Valley hospital shows expired.

 

[mondaro]

Clara Maass, Hackensack, Mountainside, St Mikes, St Mary's, St Joe's are nowhere to be found, can keep going if you like.

 

[K2NEC]

Clara Maass, Hackensack, Mountainside, St Mikes, St Mary's, St Joe's are nowhere to be found, can keep going if you like.

I can take pictures of the HEAR radios at both St. Joe's if you'd like. They have them, they just don't use them.