Thunder Bay Transit

[sleepingiant5]

Up until a month or so ago, I had the City of Thunder Bay Transit's two frequencies and was receiving them. But now, nothing. According to RadioReference the frequencies are the same as before. I have even left it on manual and hear nothing.
Did the go encrypted or change frequencies and it not get posted?

 

[mikewazowski]

The licences don't show any changes but I'd remove the PL tone and see if you can hear anything. There might have been a PL change or even a switch to one of the new digital formats.

 

[gary123]

Also check any local trunked channels and see if they migrated to them. This is a good place to start especially if there is a local system used by the city.

Thunder Bay Trunking System, Thunder Bay, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies (radioreference.com)

 

[sleepingiant5]

Thanks for getting back to me. I have entered the frequencies listed without the PL tone but still nothing heard. It does not show up on any trunking information for the Thunder Bay area, so I am still at a loss.

 

[gary123]

If they just moved, you will have to hunt them down. The database is created from members like us locating and updating information.

 

[Saint]

Thanks for getting back to me. I have entered the frequencies listed without the PL tone but still nothing heard. It does not show up on any trunking information for the Thunder Bay area, so I am still at a loss.

This is what I found
TAFL Search Results (mckie.ca)

 

[sleepingiant5]

So I just found out that Thunder Bay Transit has moved to APCO 25 Phase 1. Frequencies and are not encrypted.
How do I program them into my Whistler 1040?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

So I just found out that Thunder Bay Transit has moved to APCO 25 Phase 1. Frequencies and are not encrypted.
How do I program them into my Whistler 1040?

Thunder Bay Trunking System, Thunder Bay, Ontario

Thunder Bay Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Much easier to use programming software like Win500 to program trunked radio systems

 

[sleepingiant5]

I use ARC and never had an issue. Just do a direct download from RadioReference. This time when I added those in the download, it showed an error message along the lines of no trucked frequencies assigned.
Never had that before and all my other trucked frequencies work fine. I saw online to input them as Conventional and changed the NAC under squelch to P25. Not sure if that will work as I still haven't heard anything.

 

[mciupa]

They are not conventional frequencies. They are trunked. I see three sites listed. Which one are you close to 1, 2 or 3?
Sites and Frequencies
Red (c) are control channel capable frequencies

RFSS	Site	Name	Freqs
1 (1)	001 (1)	North	862.2375	866.125c	866.375	866.625	866.875	867.125	867.375
2 (2)	002 (2)	South	862.1375	866.0375	866.2875c	866.5375	866.7875	867.0375	867.2875
3 (3)	003 (3)	Murillo	866.2375c	866.4875	866.7375	866.9875

Do you get signal bars on your scanner from having the control channels programmed?

Do you have a Scan List created with the DEC numbers below?
Transit

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
3001	bb9	D	TB Transit	Transit	Transportation
3002	bba	D	TB Transit	Transit	Transportation
3003	bbb	D	TB Transit	Transit	Transportation
3004	bbc	D	TB Transit	Transit	Transportation
3010	bc2	D	TB Transit Maint	Transit Maintenance	Transportation

 

[sleepingiant5]

I am going to reprogram my scanner with only these trucked frequencies and nothing else to see if I hear anything.Normally I would hear them sometime during scanning but nothing yet. If that works then I’ll add my Bell FleetNet back in.
I’ll also check what you mentioned in your last reply.

Thanks again for all the help

 

[sleepingiant5]

So further to your last reply:

I programmed in only the Transit talkgroups from front direct using my new version of ARC500.
Heard Maintenance to Base, but nothing from actual bus to bus, or bus to base.
Signal is 5 bars and set them as Scan List 2. I used both North and South control channels.

Guess I’ll keep playing around with it

 

[tvengr]

I will share an ARC500 file with you. In my file, each site is in a different system on a separate scan list.

If you have the control channels in a single system with Multi-Site set to Roam, you will scan only the site with the best signal. If Multi-Site is set to Stationary, you will scan the sites whose control channels are in the frequency list.

Multi-Site is set to Off in each system since there is only a single site per system. You will be able to easily determine which sites are within range. If you scan only a single site, you may be missing traffic affiliating with the other sites. I included all of the frequencies listed for each site in the event there are control channel capable frequencies not listed in the database.

On Motorola P25 systems, you can have a primary and up to 3 alternate control channel frequencies for each site. It appears that only the active control channel frequency at the time is listed in the database. If the site switches to an alternate frequency, you will not be able to receive it unless all of the control channel capable frequencies are programmed. Harris systems can use any frequency as the control channel and often rotate the frequencies.


Here is an ARC500 file for you to try:
Save the attached zipped file to your computer and extract.
Open the extracted file with ARC500. Click on the Scanner tab and Upload to Scanner.

Scan lists as follows:
1. TBT North
2. TBT South
3. TBT Murillo