Thunder Bay

[SpaceMan]

Basically tonight i was bored and installed a disc tap on my 246t, downloaded unitrunker and decided to test it on the tbay PD radio system. However im now 100% on what the information gathered means... for say an EDACS96 system? Ive added a few screen shots if someone wants to take a look

ps i noticed in the info about unitrunker that it will display if there is a provoice channel "...the program detects ProVoice. If you see "ProVoice System 1" displayed ... you've found a ProVoice voice channel.". This has not been displayed, so could this mean that the tbay PD arent using provoice?

 

[als_medic]

Does this mean that Thunder Bay police might be monitorable with by BC-246T?

 

[SpaceMan]

I dont think by a 246T but maybe with a digital EDACS scanner? maybe? The problem that i have is that im not sure what the information from unitrunker is saying. also something to note when i was watching ice racing this past weekend, listening to the security, i would pick up similiar tones to the control towers in the 866.xxxx range somewhere in the 170.xxxx range (cant remember the exact frequency) but its CH5 on our motorola 2 way radios.

 

[als_medic]

Do you think you could post the frequencies/LCN's for the TB Police System?

 

[SpaceMan]

i can post what i know (its not alot) when i get back home. is there anyone out there that can explain whats being explained in the screenshots?
another thing id found was a motorola type II system around 858.XXXX that sounded like a taxi service and another motorola system (or thats what it showed up as) in the 4xx.xxxx but didnt display any hits...incase anyone happens to be interested....

 

[mbstone99]

Digital EDACS

I dont think by a 246T but maybe with a digital EDACS scanner? maybe? The problem that i have is that im not sure what the information from unitrunker is saying. also something to note when i was watching ice racing this past weekend, listening to the security, i would pick up similiar tones to the control towers in the 866.xxxx range somewhere in the 170.xxxx range (cant remember the exact frequency) but its CH5 on our motorola 2 way radios.

There is no such thing as a digital EDACS scannner.. there are no Provoice/Aegis scanner on the market at this time and I doubt will be any time soon either. If the tg's are analog then ya a 246T will pick them up fine.

Matt

 

[SpaceMan]

866.0375, 866.2875, 866.2650 are the 3 towers that i have the frequecy for...the fourth i dont know what it is and it was 170.3125 that had the odd chirps and beeps.

"There is no such thing as a digital EDACS scannner.. there are no Provoice/Aegis scanner on the market at this time and I doubt will be any time soon either. If the tg's are analog then ya a 246T will pick them up fine."

what i understand from this is that if the talkgroups are digital on an edacs system its either provoice/aegis? correct me if im wrong.
last night i also noticed that there were a few analog calls made but only about 4 that i noticed...possibly radio techs?

 

[mbstone99]

Digital EDACS

866.0375, 866.2875, 866.2650 are the 3 towers that i have the frequecy for...the fourth i dont know what it is and it was 170.3125 that had the odd chirps and beeps.

"There is no such thing as a digital EDACS scannner.. there are no Provoice/Aegis scanner on the market at this time and I doubt will be any time soon either. If the tg's are analog then ya a 246T will pick them up fine."

what i understand from this is that if the talkgroups are digital on an edacs system its either provoice/aegis? correct me if im wrong.
last night i also noticed that there were a few analog calls made but only about 4 that i noticed...possibly radio techs?

Yes depending on the ages of the system.. older systems might be AEGIS but most likely if TB is digital they are Provoice. Actually I am not sure if there are many AEGIS systems left. I think Midland is AEGIS Conventional but that is the only one off the top of my head that I can think of.

Matt

 

[SpaceMan]

ahh alrite thanks for clairifing that, i guess i'll just continue listening to the OPP while i can with this scanner hahah

 

[williams63]

Greater Sudbury Police use AEGIS...tho , a MOT system is in the future so im told.

The Unitrunker shots show the system is a edacs 9600 baud ( EDACS96 ) - and the screen says DIGITAL ..seeing a TB Police just got this system, Id say Provoice is what they might be using.

Kinda odd tho 866.0375 is also Sudburys Control Channel...

Yes depending on the ages of the system.. older systems might be AEGIS but most likely if TB is digital they are Provoice. Actually I am not sure if there are many AEGIS systems left. I think Midland is AEGIS Conventional but that is the only one off the top of my head that I can think of.

Matt

 

[MetalCarnage]

Provoice

I am pretty sure that when i started a thread about T-Bay Police going digital last year i had mentioned that i found an article somewhere on google from one of T-Bays council meetings stating that T-Bay Police had gone with a Provoice system since it was "unmonitorable and secure, giving police more safety while doing their jobs"

I've been wishing for a year to be able to listen to them again like i used to be able to, but ya, that wont be happening anytime soon...

 

[SpaceMan]

Yea...i had that feeling in the back of my mind the hole time i was just trying to be extremely optimistic....didnt work