TRX-1 First Impression

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I discovered there are several DSP volume adjustments, DAC and such, then when turned UP to +2db, increase the resolvable volume on the TRX-1 scanner. I m not sure why they limit the max volume from the factory........I guess they want to ensure it sounds clean in a showroom when someones first looking to buy one? Who knows.........turned up the levels, the TRX_1 is now LOUD.

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"Speak"ing from experience, I "think" the reason they might be limiting the volume is from lessons learned. My first time owning a Whistler product but I've owned several Unidens and I've had to replace speakers several times on them. And so did tons of other people who owned them. Uniden perfected the whole "replacement speaker" thing because it happened so often. My theory is, when it's too hot in your car or too cold in your car and you turn the scanner on and have the volume maxed out, .......cracked speaker. All theories.....lol
 

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I discovered there are several DSP volume adjustments, DAC and such, then when turned UP to +2db, increase the resolvable volume on the TRX-1 scanner. I m not sure why they limit the max volume from the factory........I guess they want to ensure it sounds clean in a showroom when someones first looking to buy one? Who knows.........turned up the levels, the TRX_1 is now LOUD.

Paul

To add to what "del1964" said, the settings also have to do with middle of the road compromise that would work and be acceptable to the majority. Just like with the Unidens, many people find the digital adjustments are not the best for some systems with the defaults of 'Auto' and '8'.

There's no conspiracy and anything against anybody or trying to cripple a product. In fact, the demands or scrutiny like yours is probably why they have to compromise on so many things like settings.

At least they give you choices and options and ways to change stuff like that to your liking.
 

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It took me longer to pry the rubber case off to get to the battery compartment than it took to program 53 channels and get scanning. Only nit I could pick!
 

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It took me longer to pry the rubber case off to get to the battery compartment than it took to program 53 channels and get scanning. Only nit I could pick!


Yes!!! That thing was scary to get off. I thought I'd rip it at it's narrowest point by the squelch knob....so I was trying to be super careful and then couldn't get it off until I figured out that you have to remove the colored plastic piece off of the back first. Still then it's a trick. I'm just leaving it off because it's such a pain and so bulky looking and feeling.
 

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Just when I thought Uniden was bad....

May I offer a humble apology to UPMAN!
The TRX-1 is a mess. Yes it has great audio BUT, SQUELCH KNOB ON TOP????? It's something most of us seldom use. But it as a menu option (ala Baofeng) and instead of using arrow up and down for volume PUT IT ON TOP. You can't adjust the volume while operating a car, but could if it were analog and on top. It's a shame you have an otherwise great product whose design wasn't properly thought through.
 

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May I offer a humble apology to UPMAN!
The TRX-1 is a mess. Yes it has great audio BUT, SQUELCH KNOB ON TOP????? It's something most of us seldom use. But it as a menu option (ala Baofeng) and instead of using arrow up and down for volume PUT IT ON TOP. You can't adjust the volume while operating a car, but could if it were analog and on top. It's a shame you have an otherwise great product whose design wasn't properly thought through.

Nothing new - been SQ on top since GRE came out with the 800 design like 7 years ago. Whistler just took what they got and did improvements without reinventing the wheel to get us stuff to play with. :)
 

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You could always just get a bluetooth 3.5mm audio jack and plug it into the scanner and run the audio through your car stereo,using the car's volume knob..
(amazon has em for $7)
Or get an amplified speaker then use the volume knob on the speaker to control the scanner.If it bugs you that much.Set the scanner to a middle volume and leave it then! Presto!

I dont have any issue with the pushbuttons,a volume knob would have been nicer.
Ezscan is alot easier than sentinel ,and I hate .net framework,so I will stick with the Whistler.
 

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The speak wire for the internal speaker is literally right at the top. I'm really tempted to add my own knob (that would control internal speaker only).

The volume is controlled digitally by one of the chips, which also detects whether the headphone or internal speaker is being used. Sure, they could get a control that converts the position to digital, but the volume level is controlled digitally.
 

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I've been using hand held radios for over 45yrs and I think the TRX-1 is very well laid out. Once you know your normal volume listening level it doesn't change that often, at least for me. On the other hand when you are doing a spectrum search or similar you want to vary the squelch level some depending on the RF spectrum in your area.

If this was simply a VHF or UHF hand held transceiver you could have one squelch setting for all occasions. I would not mind an additional knob for volume instead of the up/down buttons but it works well so why mess with it? Whatever you make, no matter how perfect it is, someone will think they have a better idea on how to make it.
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May I offer a humble apology to UPMAN!
The TRX-1 is a mess. Yes it has great audio BUT, SQUELCH KNOB ON TOP????? It's something most of us seldom use. But it as a menu option (ala Baofeng) and instead of using arrow up and down for volume PUT IT ON TOP. You can't adjust the volume while operating a car, but could if it were analog and on top. It's a shame you have an otherwise great product whose design wasn't properly thought through.
 

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May I offer a humble apology to UPMAN!
The TRX-1 is a mess. Yes it has great audio BUT, SQUELCH KNOB ON TOP????? It's something most of us seldom use. But it as a menu option (ala Baofeng) and instead of using arrow up and down for volume PUT IT ON TOP. You can't adjust the volume while operating a car, but could if it were analog and on top. It's a shame you have an otherwise great product whose design wasn't properly thought through.

I personally like the volume on the front control pad.

I can scroll, select scanlists, adjust the volume, etc. in one easy motion with my thumb.
 

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If it had a mute button, then the volume control wouldn't be as big of a deal.

Even then, I modify my volume frequently depending on what's going on, where I am, the time of day, etc.

No doubt, a more accessible and quicker volume control is desirable to many.
 

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Rotary encoder

The speak wire for the internal speaker is literally right at the top. I'm really tempted to add my own knob (that would control internal speaker only).

The volume is controlled digitally by one of the chips, which also detects whether the headphone or internal speaker is being used. Sure, they could get a control that converts the position to digital, but the volume level is controlled digitally.


A rotary encoder circuit would have to be on a mini circuit board.(that route)

http://www.dx.com/p/new-arduino-rotary-encoder-pcb-board-module-red-silver-176924

OR you could do this :

http://www.dx.com/p/mini-5v-single-channel-amplifier-board-module-green-437407

http://www.dx.com/p/yaosheng-386-mini-audio-amplifier-module-light-blue-5-12v-343993
 

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sorry, the knob is only squelch. The ARROW UP and ARROW DOWN controls volume

Ouch!. That's going to get me every time and It's just stupid that Whistler would do that. Knobs on top of scanners should only adjust volume and squelch. Not helpful when out in public and need to quickly adjust the volume. Well since I have not purchased one yet, may look at a Uniden instead. Really want a TRX-1 for the NXDN upgrade though.
 

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Just received my TRX-1 last night. Having been a PSR-800 user, getting the TRX-1 running was quick. I had already had programed via the software, and it was just a matter of installing batteries and pushing the card in the card reader.

First thing I noticed was a tighter squelch knob. The PSR-800 is on the loose side. Next, Quality audio. This thing sounds great. Next I tried a side by side with my 436HP. The TRX-1 heard more. Audio is much better too, IMHO.

This morning I had no trouble with the computer recognizing the scanner. I read from the scanner, made a few adjustments and it wrote everything back to the scanner ok. I've been running it along with the 436HP today and all I can say is wow. The TRX-1 is certainly hearing more then the Uniden. I have both programmed similarly.

IMHO, the Uniden got a case of the slows with the DMR upgrade and never really got back to where it was in scanning speed. I sure am happy I decided to buy the TRX-1. So far, it's everything I had hoped it would be.

Keep up the spectacular work Whistler. The TRX-1 is a damn fine radio.
 

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I thought of another feature of the TRX-1 I found most excellent. I have a few DMR users that are not Con+, Cap+, or D3. Just simple DMR users with multiple frequencies. I can program them as a trunk system with the TRX-1 and save the new TGID's as I find them. Can't do that on my Unidens without the DMR One Frequency hassle.

Damn, I am so happy I decided to buy this radio.
 

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So, my 436 and 536 just arrived back from Uniden clock reset repair recall.......and as I turned on my TRX-1 to test it side by side, the TRX-1 just asked me to set the clock........are you kidding me? My RTC issue just TRANSFERRED from my Uniden to my Whistler the same day I receive it from repairs......W T F.

Anyway, initial impressions of the 436 vs TRX-1 on 3600 Motorola P25 800MHz edge of range reception.

A draw......so far. My home is not near any cell towers, so the limiting factor for distant 800MHz decode is simply the raw signal. I held the 436 and TRX-1 side by side and also on each side of my head, and walked around my apartment, where signal is really bad, sometimes non existent depending on what trunked frequency gets chosen. There really was no winner, they both performed differently is the same way.

Let me explain that. They would seem to take turns receiving transmissions. Sometimes the TRX-1 would get a lock first, next the 436 would be first. The 436 seems to be able to pull in voice quicker and lock on quicker, but then strangely, the TRX-1 gets a lock, and the next few transmissions on the frequency, the 436 looses the voice while the TRX-1 still receives. So basically, it's a draw. And please no one say that one scanner is affecting the other causing this......it's a bars and "T" thing, talking operating on the fringe. I can speculate that the 436 may be more sensitive, but as it rushes to get that P25 out the door, it forgets it's keys......or without an analogy, it might be auto adjusting decode threshhold or whatever and that causes it to then loose the voice? Perhaps the TRX-1 chooses to wait for just the right moment until it gets what it believes is the best setting, then slams into gear and keeps the voice flowing by not rushing? Maybe if I played with specific P25 settings for edge of range the 436 could improve, but we are talking mobile moving target testing, so can think about that later.

Anyway, just speculating, but in a mobile 800MHz environment, moving down the road, for now, it would seem they would almost be matched. Being in TV news, where information is important, I think I would go for the missing the first few words but having a better follow through of additional voice traffic, i am trying to hear conversations and descriptions, not simple 10-4's, or units responding or going on scene......if that makes sense.

So, how about sound quality? Well, turning my 436 past 12 on loud P25 voice rattles and buzzes the speaker. It sounds like trying to overpump the driver on an over the ear Walkman headphone, just too much bass to deal with. Even Motorolas come with low cut options and treble boost specifically because at high volume, all that bass just moves the element too muc physically..........the TRX-1 remains as loud at max but has no vibrations, thanks to the tinnier audio. Winner.....TRX-1. TRX-1 also wins on voice quality at low levels, because it has less bass......but I still have a major hiss on the TRX-1, while the 436 is dead quite between words or on P25 carrier.........Winner there, Uniden?

Will do some more "under the cell tower" testing after the weekend.........
Paul
 

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Just got my TRX-1 today and tried it out as soon as I got it!

Sounds great on DMR, Motorola (Wake Co trunked) systems and P25 (Viper). Like the keypad layout on it and volume sounds good though a little on the low side.

Couple things I noticed right away....

1. Manual says it can use micro sd cards up to 32gb, well the scanner will not recognize a 32gb card. Bought one bcuz it was on sale (class 10 samsung) and tried it out. Get a 3-01 error when I try it.

2. The audio receive selection in radio settings allows for ANALOG, DIGITAL, and AUTO. When set to auto radio still will not recognize DMR channels, it must be set to digital.

3. Little disappointed that I can't search for DMR freqs, but perhaps there is a way I haven't figured out (anyone want to comment on this).

Really happy with the scanner, especially since I'm somewhat familiar with the software and controls having the PRO 668. Looking forward to learning more tricks and reading everyone's suggestions.
 
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