Uniden Home Patrol / GRE 107 Database changes?

[b52hbuff]

I am wondering if the arrival of these radios with preloaded configuration data will drive any changes to the RR.com database?

As someone who has interest in listening to things beyond public safety, I am really hoping to see more Federal and Military aviation representation. I'd like to see information for military demonstration teams, aerial refuling routes and other military frequencies. As Larry says, the airshow edition is very popular.

One other question that doesn't effect me is how are the larger TRS systems going to be handled? The systems with dozens of towers and hundreds of TGIDs? TRS support started with having to enter every frequency. Then it allowed for control channel only.

The Pro-96 had a 'bug' that allowed for a crude first multisite support. Then this was turned into a feature by uniden. Uniden has predictably increased the number of TGIDs allowed into a system, and I think the current max is around 500TGIDs.

So now the question, what is the migration path as these systems get bigger? Will Uniden and GRE expand the number of TGIDs they support? Or...

Can we add information to the database to indicate which sites might actually see a particular TGID? Theoretically, consider a large county that has many sites. There are two cities on the TRS, East City and West City. Each city's TGIDs are going to be local to the sites in their cities. Why would you need to ever program East City TGIDs into a Western site?

Historically, you did it because you could. Or because you didn't have any data to help you trim your TGID list.

Anyway, my question is how will this scenario with large TRS systems play out in the database and in the radio.

Thanks...

 

[mikey60]

I am wondering if the arrival of these radios with preloaded configuration data will drive any changes to the RR.com database?

I think the PRO-107 already has driven some database updates, and with the PSR-700 and similar concept radios, along with the applications like WINXX, PSREditXX and ARCXX that access the database information directly I think that will likely continue.

One other question that doesn't effect me is how are the larger TRS systems going to be handled? The systems with dozens of towers and hundreds of TGIDs? TRS support started with having to enter every frequency. Then it allowed for control channel only.

The Pro-96 had a 'bug' that allowed for a crude first multisite support. Then this was turned into a feature by uniden. Uniden has predictably increased the number of TGIDs allowed into a system, and I think the current max is around 500TGIDs.

So now the question, what is the migration path as these systems get bigger? Will Uniden and GRE expand the number of TGIDs they support? Or...

Considering that the PSR-500 family could conceivably have up to 1842 talkgroups programmed for a single TRS, I don't see that being an issue down the road.

From what I know of the PRO-107, it appears that the only limitation there on the number of talkgroups and radio ids are what you can fit on the SD card. That means that potentially all 4096 of the possible talkgroups in a motorola system could be loaded for a system, and 65000+ radio ids as well

Can we add information to the database to indicate which sites might actually see a particular TGID? Theoretically, consider a large county that has many sites. There are two cities on the TRS, East City and West City. Each city's TGIDs are going to be local to the sites in their cities. Why would you need to ever program East City TGIDs into a Western site?

You could do that I suppose, by entering it as a separate system, but why? With trunking, I would guess that the radio just looks at the data stream from the control channel to see if any of the programmed talkgroup IDs are present, and acts accordingly. If the talkgroup ID isn't there, the radio does nothing with it...

Mike

 

[Caesar]

I know in the past we didn't because there were so many other sites with the available information but given the way the new scanners are using the rr.com database I think we should start an Amateur Radio section for Ham Repeaters as well...