UniTrunker first public beta

[AZScanner]

Seriously everyone....Rick has given us so much already, I think we owe something in return...

THANK YOU RICK for all your hard work and effort! Someday, listening to digital comms will be a simple matter of taking any old discriminator tapped scanner and plugging it into your sound card then running the great grandson of T4Win. We'll have you to thank for that day. It's really easy for us to request the moon, but delivering it is another matter, especially for free. Again, thanks! Looking forward to the new version.

-AZ

 

[SCPD]

Seriously everyone....Rick has given us so much already, I think we owe something in return...

A lot of people have contributed ... including you Phil. Thanks to everyone that has helped. BUT what I really want to accomplish right now is be in the position to (1) start a fresh new thread titled "Unitrunker Second Public Beta" and (2) close this thread. I mean, really, this thread (and all that implies) has gone on too long. My apologies. Thanks for the feedback, bug reports, insights, and observations.

Perhaps something (fueled by leftover Halloween candy) will happen this weekend.

-rick

 

[BANDIT]

What kind of candy do you like kid. I have a bunch left over and don't eat to much of it myself. I'll send you a sack full.

 

[electricsheep]

Destination problem?

Hey there,
Can someone let me know if this problem has been noted before? I monitor an EDACS 9600 system, and when two radios are in an Indiv call with each other, the CALLING PARTY radio subscribe information (colour, alpha tag etc...) will be correctly displayed, but the DESTINATION PARTY radio subscriber information is blank, even if it is an identified subscriber in the RID file. The radio id is shown, but the colour is not what is stored in the RID file and the Alpha tag is blank.

Can anyone else confirm this is not working, or is it something strange on my gear alone?

 

[inigo88]

RICK YOU'RE THE MAN! You're doing a great job with this program and I think we all really appreciate you answering our questions. Just curious, is there any way to delegate a personal sysID to an EDACS9600 system? Two of my local EDACS systems have the same system ID (1), and the data keeps getting over-written unless I keep them in seperate directories and cut and paste one set of files into the main directory when I run unitrunker on that system. Is this the best option or is there something I'm overlooking? (If not there's something for the 2nd public beta ). Oh, and a program that converts Mtrunker files to unitrunker format and will run on win9x? (I'll shut up now.)

-Inigo

 

[SCPD]

Two of my local EDACS systems have the same system ID (1), and the data keeps getting over-written unless I keep them in seperate directories and cut and paste one set of files into the main directory when I run unitrunker on that system. Is this the best option or is there something I'm overlooking?

Yeah I know. EDACS is a PITA in this respect. Dallas / Ft. Worth has at least three EDACS wide systems with an ID of 01. Yes - run them in separate folders.

One means of handling this attempted in T4Win was to ask the user which matching system was being monitored. The user could type in the control channel frequency and let the system figure it out or they could pick from a list of possible systems. This didn't work as well as hoped so there's room for improvement.

Oh, and a program that converts Mtrunker files to unitrunker format and will run on win9x?

Someone posted a Perl script that does the job. I haven't tried but you can run Perl on Windows. Do a Yahoo! or Google search for Active State Perl.

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Perl

-rick

 

[Jay911]

Hey, Rick..

Got a couple issues for you.

First, regarding the brown "alternate control channels" as mentioned in another thread. Like the poster there, I am finding the CCs for the entire system eventually showing up in the single site that I can monitor reliably from my location. I'm monitoring Mot SysID 753f, site 3, and getting all the primary/active control channels from every site in the system. I'm wondering if this relates somehow to the way Smartzone announces adjacent site strength, perhaps? I get Site 3's primary and alternate control channels, plus the primary/active channels from the other 5 sites - but not their alternates.

Next, something I noticed while trying to rid myself of excess frequencies on the main display. I had the subscribers listing on the bottom pane, and went back to view subscriber to do some work there, after finishing with the channels. No more channels were being added and/or deleted, but I was finding that the subscriber list was not being displayed fully. For example, if there are subscribers from 1000-1040 in the program, and the pane is displaying 1000-1008, hitting PgDn will show 1011-1017, and PgDn again shows 1020-1028, etc. It's almost as if the window thinks it's one or two lines taller than it actually is. This is Beta 1, on a command line window in XP Pro, fully maximized.

 

[dave540]

unitrunker...fantastic!

This is one fantastic piece of software... well done Rick! Keep up the good work!

 

[SCPD]

First, regarding the brown "alternate control channels" as mentioned in another thread. Like the poster there, I am finding the CCs for the entire system eventually showing up in the single site that I can monitor reliably from my location.

I'm curious to see if this is a result of a brief fade in signal or something else. If you can create a log file that catches the circumstances then I can probably find a fix for this. The related thread describes how to create a log file.

It's almost as if the window thinks it's one or two lines taller than it actually is. This is Beta 1, on a command line window in XP Pro, fully maximized.

This was probably fixed. I'll keep this in mind for the 2nd beta.

-rick

 

[Jay911]

Just noticed another anomaly, at least to my eyes.

I created a .RID file (among others, of course) to add all the data I have for the system I'm monitoring. I put in a date of "200001010000" (Jan 1, 2000, midnight, as I understand the format) for first found time, to make it easier for me to spot 'new' hits. In the 'view subscriber' portion of the program, however (and view talkgroup, and other applicable places), the first found date is listed as "1999-12-31".

 

[SCPD]

Hi Jay,

That's not a bug - it's a feature!

Seriously ... the timestamp is stored in "Zulu" or UTC time - but displayed in local time. I'm guessing you live west of Europe - so your local time is several hours earlier (and in the previous day) when it is midnight in Greenwich.

Try 4 or 5 AM instead of midnight.

-rick

 

[RolnCode3]

Guess I'm missing something. The Wiki says Unitrunker can import talkgroup info from RR, but I'm not seeing how to do it. Anyone help? Also, since the forum change, I don't see the actual download for Unitrunker inside this thread. The thread shows having an attachment in it, but can't seem to find it. Anyone know which post it's attached to?

 

[BANDIT]

I think that might be fixed in the next beta release. Hopefully soon. We are all itchy for it.

 

[electricsheep]

I think that might be fixed in the next beta release. Hopefully soon. We are all itchy for it.

Itchy doesn't cover it...

 

[dave540]

agreed with matteblack.... i think we are all dying for the second beta....

 

[aka_ramon]

First, thank you Rick for all your hard work to date on Unitrunker. I'm a programmer by trade and, though I'm not Mr. Digital Signal Processing, I'd be pleased to lend a hand with your efforts for the overall good of the community. Don't hesitate to PM me if there's anything I can do to help. No joke, seriously.

Next, what's a beta for if not feedback, right? Excuse me everyone, if these features have already been requested. I did try to plow through the entire 16 page archive for this thread, and I didn't come across these features mentioned. Doesn't mean that I didn't miss them, however.

1) Talkgroup display -- I'd love to see the number of hits (number of times a talkgroup has been encountered) and perhaps even the number of hits in the last (programmable interval of time, like hour, day, etc).

2) Talkgroup display -- How about the time last seen, not just the date?

3) User display -- I'd like to be able to display not only the LAST group ID the user's been seen in, but also the last N (where N=5 or 10 or 20) groups the user's been seen in. Ideal here would be the TG ID and the time/date the user was last seen on this TG.

4) More TG data -- If you had the data regarding the last N TGs a user was seen in, you could also sort it by TG to get all the users seen in a given TG.

I'm also very eager to see this new decoding engine in the new GUI form for T4Win. I'm not a fan of the look/feel of console mode programs, but for Unitrunker... heck, I'd boot a Linux distro if I had to (well, almost).

R

 

[SCPD]

Don't hesitate to PM me if there's anything I can do to help. No joke, seriously.

Thanks Ramon!

1) Talkgroup display -- I'd love to see the number of hits (number of times a talkgroup has been encountered) and perhaps even the number of hits in the last (programmable interval of time, like hour, day, etc).

Search earlier threads for discussion of call detail logging or call history logging (sort of like call detail on your cellular bill). Same applies to #'s 3 and 4 below as it would include group affiliation history.

2) Talkgroup display -- How about the time last seen, not just the date?

This cuts into screen real estate. To see the time, you can select a specific talkgroup as you were going to edit it. I *think* the full timestamp(s) appear there. The full timestamp was in the list Groups view, but other-minded folks suggested that I remove it.

3) User display -- I'd like to be able to display not only the LAST group ID the user's been seen in, but also the last N (where N=5 or 10 or 20) groups the user's been seen in. Ideal here would be the TG ID and the time/date the user was last seen on this TG.

4) More TG data -- If you had the data regarding the last N TGs a user was seen in, you could also sort it by TG to get all the users seen in a given TG.

See above.

I'm also very eager to see this new decoding engine in the new GUI form for T4Win. I'm not a fan of the look/feel of console mode programs, but for Unitrunker... heck, I'd boot a Linux distro if I had to (well, almost).

Eventually, UniTrunker will find it's way to run natively on DOS, Linux, and perhaps Mac OS X ... but not anytime soon.

-rick

 

[funkytones]

quick ?... what does the "T" column stand for? and what does the "CT" column on the far right stand for? and what are the possabilites for both? for the "T" i see all "G"'s and the "CT" i see alot of 0's and 4's...

 

[jlh]

Funky, haven't run it in a while but iirc the T is going to be call type as in Group, Individual, Emer, etc. The trunker docs used to have a good breakdown of the possibilities.

 

[Jay911]

Correct - T is Type, and in that column G is for group calls (i.e. normal transmissions etc)... CT, I'm not sure what the letters stand for, but this is where you will see what Uniden scanner folks know as the "status bits" ... right now, I just caught a few 8's on the local police's Strike Force (SWAT team) channel, which is encrypted.