Unmuting encrypted TGs

[west-pac]

Is there a way in any of the programming softwares to unmute encrypted talkgroups?...especially in ID SEARCH mode considering that mode's purpose to discover talkgroups. If there are unlisted encrypted talkgroups out there on radio systems, and the scanner won't stop on those talkgroups while in ID SEARCH mode, those talkgroups will never be discovered via a Uniden scanner.

Edit: Radio Shack, Gre, and Whistler scanners will allow users to discover encrypted TGs, but Uniden mutes encryption, thus making them unable to be discovered on a Uniden scanner.

 

[KevinC]

The below custom FW will let you choose to mute or not mute encrypted traffic.

GitHub - x27/CFT: Custom Firmware Tuner for Uniden Scanners

Custom Firmware Tuner for Uniden Scanners. Contribute to x27/CFT development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

 

[west-pac]

The below custom FW will let you choose to mute or not mute encrypted traffic.

GitHub - x27/CFT: Custom Firmware Tuner for Uniden Scanners

Custom Firmware Tuner for Uniden Scanners. Contribute to x27/CFT development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Thank you. I will look into that. I figured a simple FW edit could make that a user-selectable option.

 

[u2brent]

Is there a way in any of the programming softwares to unmute encrypted talkgroups?...especially in ID SEARCH mode considering that mode's purpose to discover talkgroups. If there are unlisted encrypted talkgroups out there on radio systems, and the scanner won't stop on those talkgroups while in ID SEARCH mode, those talkgroups will never be discovered via a Uniden scanner.

Edit: Radio Shack, Gre, and Whistler scanners will allow users to discover encrypted TGs, but Uniden mutes encryption, thus making them unable to be discovered on a Uniden scanner.

Uniden has heard those complaints a plenty, even during UPMAN's time, They made their choice and never looked backed. The complainers were scoffed at. It should always have been an option to turn off that feature, for the very reasons the op posed.
So now we have after market firmware. Or are required to use separate programs to find simple info, that a $600+ radio can't do.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Personally I'd find that more of a nuisance than a benefit on a Uniden. I prefer DSD+ for documenting encryption but, different strokes for different folks. With that said in ID Search mode on the x36HPs and SDSx00s as long as you don't have them programmed in and avoided you should see encrypted talkgroups briefly flash up on the screen for a half second with the words ENC or ENCRY towards the top of the screen.

 

[mc48]

Get an HP2 they don't mute encryption.

 

[richardbritt]

You can always get an old Pro-2096 and run Pro96com software to log everything on a p25 trunking site. Or you can just run your scanner in Discovery mode. It still logs the encrypted talkgroups even though the audio is muted.

 

[west-pac]

You can always get an old Pro-2096 and run Pro96com software to log everything on a p25 trunking site. Or you can just run your scanner in Discovery mode. It still logs the encrypted talkgroups even though the audio is muted.

You didn't understand my question. Obviously I know I can use RS/GRE/WS equipment, I stated that in my post.

 

[richardbritt]

Or you can just run your scanner in Discovery mode. It still logs the encrypted talkgroups even though the audio is muted.

I just left you another option with the answer to your question

 

[west-pac]

Personally I'd find that more of a nuisance than a benefit on a Uniden. I prefer DSD+ for documenting encryption but, different strokes for different folks. With that said in ID Search mode on the x36HPs and SDSx00s as long as you don't have them programmed in and avoided you should see encrypted talkgroups briefly flash up on the screen for a half second with the words ENC or ENCRY towards the top of the screen.

Do you watch your scanner's screen like you're watching TV?..I don't. However, if I wake up at 2am and hear a bunch of encryption coming from my scanner, I'm going to investigate. I may learn that there is a bunch of Bomb Squad radio traffic; and from that chances are there is bomb squad incident somewhere. Using a Uniden scanner, Uniden doesn't give you the option to know that there is a bunch of encrypted radio traffic going on.

 

[west-pac]

Or you can just run your scanner in Discovery mode. It still logs the encrypted talkgroups even though the audio is muted.

I just left you another option with the answer to your question

I don't think you remember what my question is, because none of this answers my question. I'm not trying to "log" encrypted TGs. What I'm going for is to HEAR when encrypted TGs are in-use.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Do you watch your scanner's screen like you're watching TV?..I don't.

You don't need to watch your scanner's screen. Proscan does a good job at logging what's encrypted

 

[u2brent]

To add to Whiskey3JMC's point,
I use ARC536 PRO for logging and control.
It will log those quickly passed over TGID's and this includes RID's. But it is only a workaround, and you need to be tethered to the PC.

 

[west-pac]

You don't need to watch your scanner's screen. Proscan does a good job at logging what's encrypted

Again, I'm not wanting to "log" anything. I'm wanting to HEAR when encrypted TGs are in-use.

 

[u2brent]

Sadly, It's just not gonna happen, it is what it is.
You'd need a Whistler for that.

 

[u2brent]

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[n3obl]

Personally I'd find that more of a nuisance than a benefit on a Uniden. I prefer DSD+ for documenting encryption but, different strokes for different folks. With that said in ID Search mode on the x36HPs and SDSx00s as long as you don't have them programmed in and avoided you should see encrypted talkgroups briefly flash up on the screen for a half second with the words ENC or ENCRY towards the top of the screen.

Some people don't want to use a computer etc. It should be a toggle etc. Especially if I monitor a local system and a talk-group goes quiet all sudden and start hearing R2D2 then bam you know what happened.

 

[u2brent]

Some people don't want to use a computer etc. It should be a toggle etc. Especially if I monitor a local system and a talk-group goes quiet all sudden and start hearing R2D2 then bam you know what happened.

Exactly! 🎰
The horse is still dead 😥

 

[west-pac]

Exactly! 🎰
The horse is still dead 😥

It's only dead if you keep saying it is. Uniden needs a reason for people to buy their future products. This could be one of those reasons.

 

[u2brent]

Don't get me wrong, I desire the remedy as well. The ball has been sitting on Uniden's side of the court for a long, long time. I don't see anyone that's actually gonna pick up that ball anymore...