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I have been listening to 407.775 US Postal Inspectors in New York State. They operate on P-25 digital. Most of the time the mobiles operate in the clear when talking to base. The base on the other had is full time encrpted. I never have heard any traffic on the output frequency of 414.750? Since it's P-25 i don't have the PL tones programmed into my BC796D.
 

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JUst to be clear,
IF its Indeed P- 25
then DO NOT even have Search on
or else it WILL NOT decode the P-25...
Also The average Pl tone for the USPS is CTSS 82.5
But it can be different depending on where you are..
It's why I say AVERAGE
Good Luck
Crista
 

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Here in NYC 416.225 PL 82.5 is one of the USPS Inspectors frequency. I heard 414.75 went active as an interop frequency many months ago in clear P25 mode, but since then it's silent except periodic DES "pings"
 

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CqDx said:
Here in NYC 416.225 PL 82.5 is one of the USPS Inspectors frequency. I heard 414.75 went active as an interop frequency many months ago in clear P25 mode, but since then it's silent except periodic DES "pings"
hi try 409.025 pl 110 409.275 pl 127 413.7 415.950 164.3375 166.375. in ny. these are non digital.
 
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413.7000 MHz and 415.9500 MHz are part of the NYC Federal TRS.
 
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d_strong said:
I have been listening to 407.775 US Postal Inspectors in New York State. They operate on P-25 digital. Most of the time the mobiles operate in the clear when talking to base. The base on the other had is full time encrpted. I never have heard any traffic on the output frequency of 414.750? Since it's P-25 i don't have the PL tones programmed into my BC796D.

I know this is an old post, but since I'm a little familiar with the USPI I figured I may have someting new to add.

The Postal Inspectors in large cities use repeaters installed on tall buildings, most likely the Main Post Office or the Federal Building. The one in Seattle is installed on top of the Bank of America Tower - the tallest building in downtown Seattle and the West Coast. They also operate on low power most of the time. Since most of their work involves being incognito, setting up in vans with cameras, you can expect most transmissions to be encrypted. Professional criminals all use scanners and they know it. Antennas on their cars are very short, and they use all types of vehicles. In Seattle one year they received a lot of new Camaros for undercover work. There are no standard USPI vehicles, and for good reason. They work like the DEA and other law enforcement undercover. You will see them in coat and tie only when they need to look professional. The guy driving next to you on the freeway may be a USPI, your neighbor, and even haha your spouse (smile).

I have several USPI frequencies for the Puget Sound area and they are also listed in Federal Frequency directories under USPS.
 

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What exactly is the job of a postal inspector? I'm not familiar with them at all. I have the impression that they "inspect mail". Is this true? If so, why do they need to be undercover and use encryption. It's just the mail. What else do they do???

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trainman111 said:
What exactly is the job of a postal inspector? I'm not familiar with them at all. I have the impression that they "inspect mail". Is this true? If so, why do they need to be undercover and use encryption. It's just the mail. What else do they do???

Nick

The U.S. Postal Inspecton Service is one of the oldest law enforcement arms in the country.

Their responsibility is to ensure the security and sancity of the mails and investigate fraud, robbery, theft of mail, and other illegal things people use the mail for. If you order something that's to be sent via the mail and it doesn't arrive, the Postal Inspectors get involved. If someone steals your mail from your mail box, they get involved, if you accidently put an Easter Seal in place of a stamp, they may pay you a visit, etc, etc. Their legal authority is
the same as the F.B.I. And they carry weapons. Their arresting authority is that of the F.B.I. and they also investigate matters all over the world when it involves use of the U.S. Mail.

They were instrumental in capturing the UnaBomber, Ted Kasinski, and several other known criminals. You don't want to meet them on their terms. They also keep an eye on Postal Employees in all post offices and plants to ensure they are honest and not stealing the mail. Christmas time is the worse time of the year for mail theft. Some Postal Employees will look hard at Christmas cards to see if there's any cash in there. I had a friend that got caught doing just that. They set him up with a card and a $50 bill. He worked at a desk where they re-wrap damaged mail that was damaged in processing. A lot of letters get mangled in the high speed machines they use. That's why they don't want you to put any objects in envelopes thicker than a normal letter. Well the ol'boy got the mangled card and saw it had a $50 bill and he put it in his pocket. Needless to say, within two minutes, five Postal Inspectors were all over him and hauled him away in cuffs. Instead of prosecuting him, they let him retire. That's only a sample of what they do. All Postal robberies are investigated by them. All Postmasters must open their books for inspection to them upon demand. The public really has no idea what the USPS is all about. It's quite interesting once you get into it. Lot's of stories to tell. Soooo, stay honest, because you never know whey they may be watching you. Hope that answers your question. You can find out more by going to their website located on www.usps.gov.
 

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oldsarge said:
Their legal authority is the same as the F.B.I. And they carry weapons. Their arresting authority is that of the F.B.I. and they also investigate matters all over the world when it involves use of the U.S. Mail.
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I think that this statement is stretching it a bit. Their (USPS) responsibility is focused on the integrity and security of the US Postal Service. Postal Inspectors do have federal law enforcement authority, they are federal agents, they do have arrest authority and they do carry guns, but it is not the same authority as the FBI.
 

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Thanks everyone. I never realized how serious of a business that is. It's actually pretty amazing if you think about it. Wow.

Thanks,
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I believe that 407.775 is now a P25 repeater output for the US Postal Inspectors. 415.050 has also been heard in the P25 digital mode as well. 414.750 is still used by the Postal Inspectors as an interop. The 416.225 seems to mainly be used by the Postal Police, who are most active on the NYC Federal UHF Trunked System.
 

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I don't think it's that much of a stretch at all. They are involved in more Federal cases than most people would expect. They do sting type operations as well that involve no knock entries so they train in a tactical manner as well.

They are great people to work with.





JoeH said:
I think that this statement is stretching it a bit. Their (USPS) responsibility is focused on the integrity and security of the US Postal Service. Postal Inspectors do have federal law enforcement authority, they are federal agents, they do have arrest authority and they do carry guns, but it is not the same authority as the FBI.
 

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I don't think it's that much of a stretch at all. They are involved in more Federal cases than most people would expect. They do sting type operations as well that involve no knock entries so they train in a tactical manner as well.

They are great people to work with.
Again, not the same as the FBI. VERY different authorities, missions, etc. Statements like that are confusing to folks that don't know about the agency.
 

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W4KRR said:
Are "Postal Inspectors" and "Postal Police" the same thing?
Postal Police work under the same umbrella as Inspectors but they have two different missions. Police are uniformed personnel. They mostly provide security, respond to incidents and escort high-value mail shipments. Inspectors are the equivalent of Federal Special Agents.
 

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U.S. Postal Inspectors....

http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/jurislaw.htm

I could imagine from looking at this they probably work closely with the FBI and other federal agencys like the DEA and BATF.

You got it. I think they have radios in most of their cars and communicate with their main office located at the main post office or Federal Building in a city. I know where I worked, in the main processing center in Seattle, they had no radios there. And like I said, they probably use low power and encryption on top of that. No sense in letting the bad guys know you are watching them or coming after them. If you look at a Federal Frequency Directory, you will see a lot of USPS listings, a couple hundred at least. The Postal Inspectors use some of these frequencies while the processing centers and transportation use the others. The thing is to narrow down which frequencies are being used in your area. They may only use two or three, or maybe ten. Get real friendly with someone that works on USPS radio systems.
 
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