VHF or UHF FM amplifier for use on SSB

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there are several vhf and/or uhf amplifiers out there that are used for repeater use. Some I have seen say fm only.
Question I have is what would have to be added to an amp like that to work on vhf/uhf SSB?
 

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there are several vhf and/or uhf amplifiers out there that are used for repeater use. Some I have seen say fm only.
Question I have is what would have to be added to an amp like that to work on vhf/uhf SSB?

These kinds of amps have RF sensing that tells the amp to "key up" and do its amplification when your radio is transmitting. SSB does not have a carrier, so if you try use an amp with SSB it will rapidly key up and down while you talk... unless it has an SSB mode. The SSB mode will cause the amp to delay unkeying for about a second in the absence of RF from your radio. So if the amp you are using doesn't have an SSB mode, you would have to add a delay circuit. Such a circuit requires a few components. A switch, an electrolytic capacitor and a resistor would probably do the job in most amps. Maybe a relay as well. Someone with electronics experience could probably do it in a few minutes.

An alternative would be to simply add a switch that keys the amp, that you would manually switch on when keying the radio and off when unkeying the radio. Clumsy, but it would work. (I've done that in my past.) Certainly not recommended while driving.
 
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An alternative would be to simply add a switch that keys the amp, that you would manually switch on when keying the radio and off when unkeying the radio.
Or, connect the amp's key line to a PTT signal from the radio so that the amp keys up whenever PTT is pressed. I've done that with HF amps, but not a VHF/UHF amp. Depending on the voltages and currents involved, some buffering may be required.
 

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Nope.

If it’s a class C amplifier it won’t work for SSB
To be more specific a class C amplifier is not linear, it works ok on FM or modes without any amplitude component but will create distortion with AM or SSB modes. With some amps it may be possible to re-bias the amplifier into a class that will be more linear but it’s a science experiment. You also generally loose some efficiency resulting in lower output power biasing from class C to AB or similar.

Then there is the T/R relay holdover mentioned previously, SSB will cause the T/R relay to chatter with the varying input level but that can also be modified to work.
 

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there are several vhf and/or uhf amplifiers out there that are used for repeater use. Some I have seen say fm only.
Question I have is what would have to be added to an amp like that to work on vhf/uhf SSB?
You would be better off with a linear amplifier made for SSB like a Mirage. I have one VHF and one UHF Mirage amplifiers that were built prior to MFJ buying them out. They are pretty good.
 

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Good replies. Thank yall! It was just a curiosity of mine, but those are some pretty good answers, and some things just aren’t meant to be
 

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Or, connect the amp's key line to a PTT signal from the radio so that the amp keys up whenever PTT is pressed. I've done that with HF amps, but not a VHF/UHF amp. Depending on the voltages and currents involved, some buffering may be required.

That's a more involved project. But yes, doable, but not as simple.
 

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Good replies. Thank yall! It was just a curiosity of mine, but those are some pretty good answers, and some things just aren’t meant to be

I've got a Mirage 150w 2 meter amp I'll give you, that has SSB mode. If you pay for shipping from Indiana. DM me if interested.

If you're a licensed ham.
 

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Unless you really want to modify an existing amplifier, you could look the Gemini linear amplifiers. They have both VHF/UHF amplifers.
 
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