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Washington County will be conducting interviews of potential vendors and suppliers of equipment and services relating to the countywide radio project on November 27, 28, 29 & 30.
Washington County TRS update
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Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 3/11/08
Tyco backed for new radio system contact
The Washington County Board should award a $10.3 million contract to Tyco Electronics for the purchase of a new countywide emergency radio system, a radio communications committee recommended Monday.
The board will be asked today to approve purchase of vehicle and portable radios, dispatch consoles and tower equipment for the system from Pennsylvania-based Tyco, Sheriff Dale Schmidt said.
Tyco radios and other electronic equipment will replace an aging system now used by county sheriff's and highway departments, municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services.
Tyco backed for new radio system contact
The Washington County Board should award a $10.3 million contract to Tyco Electronics for the purchase of a new countywide emergency radio system, a radio communications committee recommended Monday.
The board will be asked today to approve purchase of vehicle and portable radios, dispatch consoles and tower equipment for the system from Pennsylvania-based Tyco, Sheriff Dale Schmidt said.
Tyco radios and other electronic equipment will replace an aging system now used by county sheriff's and highway departments, municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services.
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Tyco also operates the EDACS format. It says PA based Tyco. Last I looked M/A Com the OpenSky part of Tyco was in MA. This may be a clue.mas said:
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I **believe** this is going to be a VHF trunked system. Tyco is also marketing a P25 trunking system (scan-able) and the 'Provoice' system (not good for scanners). I would hope, that with the large number of volunteer fire/ems personnel in the county they would go with something able to be monitored. A P25 trunked system would also allow connection to the future State of WI system too. I guess we'll wait and see 
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West Bend Daily News 3/12/08
Washington County radio bid $4.25 million under cap
Board snaps up $10.35 million replacement system
The County Board accepted a bid today for the installation of a new countywide radio communications system for $4.25 million less than it originally authorized as the maximum amount.
The board awarded the project to M/A-Com, Inc., a unit of Tyco Electronics, for just under $10.35 million. The board had originally approved an amount not to exceed $14.6 million for the system, which will serve as the base for all county and municipal departments' radios once it is completed in 2009.
Installation of the system is intended to replace outdated equipment in the county which is no longer supported by manufacturers, and increase coverage and bring the county into compliance with Federal Communications Commission mandate that all nonfederal public safety radio systems narrow their broadcasting frequency by 2013.
Washington County radio bid $4.25 million under cap
Board snaps up $10.35 million replacement system
The County Board accepted a bid today for the installation of a new countywide radio communications system for $4.25 million less than it originally authorized as the maximum amount.
The board awarded the project to M/A-Com, Inc., a unit of Tyco Electronics, for just under $10.35 million. The board had originally approved an amount not to exceed $14.6 million for the system, which will serve as the base for all county and municipal departments' radios once it is completed in 2009.
Installation of the system is intended to replace outdated equipment in the county which is no longer supported by manufacturers, and increase coverage and bring the county into compliance with Federal Communications Commission mandate that all nonfederal public safety radio systems narrow their broadcasting frequency by 2013.
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Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 3/14/08
County OKs radio contract
Emergency system to cost $10.3 million
M/A-COM Inc., a Massachusetts subsidiary of Tyco Electronics, will be paid $10.3 million to provide an emergency radio system for Washington County, under a contract the County Board approved Tuesday.
The contract requires M/A-COM's digital system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
The system, to begin operating in late 2009, is to replace aging radio equipment used by the county Sheriff's and Highway departments, all municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services.
M/A-COM was the low bidder for the project, said Dominick Arcuri, a senior vice president with RCC Consultants Inc., a company the county hired to help plan the new system.
The proposal recommends using seven existing towers or tower sites. The $10.3 million contract includes the cost of replacing a tower on a WE Energies property in the Town of Wayne, county Administrative Coordinator Doug Johnson said.
Sheriff Dale Schmidt said one of the towers, on Jefferson St. in West Bend, might not be able to support the additional weight of an emergency system antenna. Building a tower there would increase the final contract cost.
The board had budgeted $14.6 million for the project.
The contract is to buy antennas and other tower equipment, vehicle and portable radios, and consoles and computers for four dispatch centers. In addition to the Sheriff's Department, the county plans to provide radios, consoles and computers for dispatch centers in West Bend, Germantown and Hartford.
Those municipalities will be responsible for maintaining the equipment after installation, under the board's resolution.
Seven of 30 board members were absent when the vote was taken on the contract. Awarding the contract to M/A-COM was approved 21-2.
County OKs radio contract
Emergency system to cost $10.3 million
M/A-COM Inc., a Massachusetts subsidiary of Tyco Electronics, will be paid $10.3 million to provide an emergency radio system for Washington County, under a contract the County Board approved Tuesday.
The contract requires M/A-COM's digital system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
The system, to begin operating in late 2009, is to replace aging radio equipment used by the county Sheriff's and Highway departments, all municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services.
M/A-COM was the low bidder for the project, said Dominick Arcuri, a senior vice president with RCC Consultants Inc., a company the county hired to help plan the new system.
The proposal recommends using seven existing towers or tower sites. The $10.3 million contract includes the cost of replacing a tower on a WE Energies property in the Town of Wayne, county Administrative Coordinator Doug Johnson said.
Sheriff Dale Schmidt said one of the towers, on Jefferson St. in West Bend, might not be able to support the additional weight of an emergency system antenna. Building a tower there would increase the final contract cost.
The board had budgeted $14.6 million for the project.
The contract is to buy antennas and other tower equipment, vehicle and portable radios, and consoles and computers for four dispatch centers. In addition to the Sheriff's Department, the county plans to provide radios, consoles and computers for dispatch centers in West Bend, Germantown and Hartford.
Those municipalities will be responsible for maintaining the equipment after installation, under the board's resolution.
Seven of 30 board members were absent when the vote was taken on the contract. Awarding the contract to M/A-COM was approved 21-2.
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Thats would be a record under M/A Com. Most of there systems are years behind.wiradio said:
Building infrastructure (towers, dispatch consoles installs) takes time. 18 months is a very ambitious schedule
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am I correct in my interpretation that this price only includes infrastructure and not the radios themselves?
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Thats the way it sounds to me as well a lot of M/A coms work is done this way. They forget to tell the guys spending the money that the HTs are 2500-5000 a copy depending on the system and the mobiles are 3000-6000 a copy.triryche said:
They may have been the low bidder on this part but I am sure you can find much cheaper P25 trunking radios on the market. Wait till all the little township FDs get that bill!
WEST BEND, Wis. — M/A-COM Inc., a Massachusetts subsidiary of Tyco Electronics, will be paid $10.3 million to provide an emergency radio system for Washington County, under a contract the County Board approved Tuesday.
The contract requires M/A-COM's digital system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
http://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/communications/radios/articles/391245/
The contract requires M/A-COM's digital system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
http://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/communications/radios/articles/391245/
I hope this disaster isn't OpenSky...on any band. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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It is not. It is going to be a VHF digital trunking system based on existing frqs in the county and some local Dept's joining in with frqs they hold. It will be a bare bones system and should be coming on line end of 2009.
This info is from several individuals in Washington Co that have been or are involved with some of the meetings mentioned here in the past. OpenSky according to them was never discussed.
I have encouraged a couple of them to sign up here and join the disscussions. We will just have to wait and see if they do.
This info is from several individuals in Washington Co that have been or are involved with some of the meetings mentioned here in the past. OpenSky according to them was never discussed.
I have encouraged a couple of them to sign up here and join the disscussions. We will just have to wait and see if they do.
stateboy said:
Hiya all....
Correct me if am wrong, but M/A Comm + digital = non-scannable no matter which format they go with.
I believe M/A Comm's version of P25 is "Pro-Voice", which no scanner on the market can decode. The only possible good thing is the county fire departments might stay analog.
Tim
Correct me if am wrong, but M/A Comm + digital = non-scannable no matter which format they go with.
I believe M/A Comm's version of P25 is "Pro-Voice", which no scanner on the market can decode. The only possible good thing is the county fire departments might stay analog.
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Tim said:
I am correcting you... :lol: M/A-Com's "Pro-Voice" (Proprietary) is NOT the same format as P25 (Open Standard), they are seperate formats.
The information floating around, is that the system will be P25 which can be scanned. A caveat, however, is that P25 **can** be encrypted. I can't see them encrypting every talkgroup, but that is a consideration.
It will be interesting to see this system get built, going from VHF analog conventional to trunked P25 and using existing frequencies. We will likely see more systems like this, as the state is planning a similar system statewide. I also believe Dane County is working toward a similar arrangement.
Anyone have access to the actual RFP or bid that they could post?
Jim
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Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 5/19/08
Release of bid data sought
Radio competitors request records
M/A-COM Inc., the company contracted to provide a new emergency radio system for Washington County, is asking a judge to block efforts by its competitors to get their hands on bid information.
The Lowell, Mass.-based company, a subsidiary of Tyco Electronics, was awarded the $10.3 million contract by the county to provide an emergency radio system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
The system, scheduled to begin operating in late 2009, is to replace aging radio equipment used by the county highway and Sheriff's departments, all municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services. The County Board has budgeted $14.6 million for the project.
M/A-COM was the low bidder over Motorola Inc. After the contract was awarded, Motorola and General Electric, another M/A-COM competitor, filed open records requests with the county for M/A-COM's proposal, according to a civil complaint filed in Washington County Circuit Court.
Releasing the information would reveal trade secrets, including a new product design tool, pricing information and internal policies, that would give its competitors an unfair market advantage, the company argued in court filings.
Circuit Judge James K. Muehlbauer granted a temporary restraining order April 7, preventing release of the company's proposal. A hearing on the case is set for Friday, according to online court records.
The cost of the project could go higher if more radio towers are needed, officials have said.
Release of bid data sought
Radio competitors request records
M/A-COM Inc., the company contracted to provide a new emergency radio system for Washington County, is asking a judge to block efforts by its competitors to get their hands on bid information.
The Lowell, Mass.-based company, a subsidiary of Tyco Electronics, was awarded the $10.3 million contract by the county to provide an emergency radio system, including vehicle radios and hand-held portable radios, to be reliable at least 95% of the time over at least 95% of the county.
The system, scheduled to begin operating in late 2009, is to replace aging radio equipment used by the county highway and Sheriff's departments, all municipal police and fire departments, and emergency medical services. The County Board has budgeted $14.6 million for the project.
M/A-COM was the low bidder over Motorola Inc. After the contract was awarded, Motorola and General Electric, another M/A-COM competitor, filed open records requests with the county for M/A-COM's proposal, according to a civil complaint filed in Washington County Circuit Court.
Releasing the information would reveal trade secrets, including a new product design tool, pricing information and internal policies, that would give its competitors an unfair market advantage, the company argued in court filings.
Circuit Judge James K. Muehlbauer granted a temporary restraining order April 7, preventing release of the company's proposal. A hearing on the case is set for Friday, according to online court records.
The cost of the project could go higher if more radio towers are needed, officials have said.
izz said:
Huh? I thought GE sold off the LMR stuff to Ericcson, which then morphed in M/A-Com...?
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