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What Changes Would You Most Like To See On The Unication G4/G5 Pagers?
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At the same time? Wouldn't that mean they'd have to put in a whole second receive circuit board? I don't suppose a firmware upgrade could possibly do this. What you're asking for might have to be a whole separate product with new hardware.
They designed a radio receiver capable of VHF and 800, but not one capable of software enabling monitoring both VHF and 800 simultaneously? I was under the impression this is a software issue. Yes, I need to monitor both, at the same time. That or flip between both channels manually every second, 24/7.
Not even a $10,000 APX8000 can do what you ask. You need multiple radios. Scanning between systems is guaranteed to miss a call or just enough of a paging tone/bit to not decode properly.
Not necessarily a change to the G4/G5 pagers but I'd like to be a M4/M5 (mobile version). Same form factor as, say, the Kenwood NX5800 or similar - good color display, front firing speaker, good looking design (like the current G4/5), etc., in a mobile instead of handheld/belt worn design. I know the G4/5 was designed as a pager and I get that but if we're dreaming and wishing, since they've tackled the simulcast thing so well I can't help but think a mobile form factor would sell well to, at least, the scanner community or to those in emergency jobs (police, fire, oem, ems) that need/want to monitor P25 systems but don't need access to them for transmitting.
If they could keep the price in line with the current G4/5 I think it would sell very well.
If they could keep the price in line with the current G4/5 I think it would sell very well.
Ditto. We page on 800 MHz conventional, and scanning is guaranteed to cause missed pages.
We tell folks that the paging channel in their radios is intended only for overnight use or those times when they're in a meeting or something and unable to monitor the dispatch talkgroup.
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In analog monitor mode, using one frequency, I'd like to be able to input more than 25 2-tone groups. Be nice to see what agency or entity is activated based on the 2-tone (or TG). I have more than 25 I'd like to input.
APX8000
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That was my “G6” concept I posted earlier. But I added a dedicated antenna output for each band inside of an internal loop on UHF or VHF. I can pick up 7/800 P25 trunked systems much further away due to the external antenna compared to UHF on my G5.
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lexmedic157
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A mobile version like this (replace the guts of this radio for Unication's G5), would be pretty neat. Antenna ports on the back, fairly small FF.
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Just a Thought
From what I have seen regarding the Unication pagers, I wish they would come out with a full blown radio scanner that would incorporate their quality decoding and a rapid downloadable database such as is used with the Whistler scanners. Other than this, it would make folks smile if Uniden and/or Whistler would include the reception of the Unification pagers. Yes, I like to dream big, but having a scanner with the that quality performance could be prenominal.
From what I have seen regarding the Unication pagers, I wish they would come out with a full blown radio scanner that would incorporate their quality decoding and a rapid downloadable database such as is used with the Whistler scanners. Other than this, it would make folks smile if Uniden and/or Whistler would include the reception of the Unification pagers. Yes, I like to dream big, but having a scanner with the that quality performance could be prenominal.
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If this was to come TRUE we will have NO NEED for SCANNERS that just don;t work. make this NEW UNICATION SCANNER #1 i would buy one for sure i got the TRX-2 last year its a little better than the Pro-197 i sold.
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I know this is a "wish" or better yet, would like to see in my pager. But definitely, I would like to see the firmwares FINALLY leave BETA testing! Perhaps that's too much to ask from a company.
The APX8000 is not $10,000, and it can have multi-bands in a single a zone and scan 800mhz P25 trunked and VHF in the same zone and scan list. The Harris XL-200P is capable of this as well. Scanning may miss calls, which is why dispatch repeats every call twice, in both dispatch centers.
So I am not sure what you are talking about. What I am seeking is entirely within the capabilities of the Unication G5 hardware.
Absolutely. Even just one antenna connection like most scanners would be fine with me.
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I think what he was getting at, and i agree, is that no device on the market will RX 2 things at once. Sure you can have multiple systems or different bands scanning in a scan list on an APX, but its still RX only 1 thing at a time, 1 system at a time and one band at a time. So you are still likely to miss transmissions with more stuff in the scan list, and if you have multiple systems and/or bands / conventional stuff you enhance that.
I know i have my system hang time at 2 seconds, and if i scan 4 systems thats a possibility of 6 seconds till it gets back to my original system.
No device is perfect and were not going to make everyone happy.
Scanners have the software options we want.
Unication and other commercial devices have the hardware we want.
At least were getting closer with the Unication device. Both in hardware and price in my opinion.
I assure you the list price of a loaded APX8000 exceeds $10k. Ours are not loaded and are $12,250. That's not what we pay for them when buying hundreds at a time of course. You asked for simultaneous reception.
I think we all know that what I was referencing when I said I wanted to be able to monitor an 800 P25 TG and VHF Analog channel. The G5 can scan/monitor multiple TGs at once or multiple VHF channels at once ... maybe not simultaneous in the literal sense. All I want is the G5 to be able to allow me to monitor both a 800 P25 TG and VHF Analog channel, so I can hear both dispatches. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than having to carry two pagers? Yes.
On a side note, when I priced the APX8000 from my local dealer, for what I need, their price was $6,800.
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