What's up with that??? DPS doing crashes downtown....?

[n0doz]

Good evening, all. I've noticed this before, but never asked.
Earlier tonight, the RWC Incident board had DPS assigned to a 962 at 16th St and Portland. Is there an area of downtown Phoenix, off-highway, that DPS covers? I think I've heard that the Capitol Police cover the areas around state buildings - is this an extension of that?
I still have a few gaps in my AZ knowledge.... thank you all for helping patch it up.

 

[KB7MIB]

The Arizona State Capitol Police Department was absorbed into DPS in 2011. They patrol the Capitol District in Phoenix, as well as the Tucson State Complex.

John
Peoria

 

[Ravenfalls]

Possible an involved party exited the freeway? Nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[GlobalNorth]

1600 East Portland Street abuts the south side of I-10. Geolocation may have been off a bit.

 

[n0doz]

OK, thank you! I'm not quite as confused.

 

[radiochuck]

Earlier tonight, the RWC Incident board had DPS assigned to a 962 at 16th St and Portland.

When you say "RWC Incident board" are you referring to the Regional Dispatch Center page from Phoenix Fire Regional Dispatch, or is there another page? If so, can you share the link? Thanks!

 

[GlobalNorth]

There is the RWC FD 'Big Board' and nothing else publicly available that I am aware of.

 

[radiochuck]

There is the RWC FD 'Big Board' and nothing else publicly available that I am aware of.

Are you referring to THIS... or something else? If it's something else, do you mind sharing the link?

 

[GlobalNorth]

That's what many here call the 'Big Board' [from Dr. Strangelove].

The only OTHER publicly available compendium of calls is for the Phoenix PD and it is a .CSV format that is historical. It omits officer initiated calls [officer sees a house fire or a crime in progress], calls for other agencies/turned over to other agencies, etc.

 

[n0doz]

For the record, I was referring to what RadioChuck linked to.

 

[GlobalNorth]

Odd facts you may not know...

It's unusual, but there are extenuating circumstances where an LE agency may not take a traffic accident within their jurisdiction.

Agency involved incident and objectivity needs to be retained. Usually more serious incidents, but some agencies can and do use other agencies to investigate everything from OIS to traffic collisions involving the agency.

Agency does not have enough personnel to respond. Increasingly, more and more agencies do not have sufficient motor or patrol personnel to respond to traffic incidents in a timely manner. I took several reports in MCSO's area, for DPS, and even for Phoenix PD, in my time.

Administrative reason - Many years ago, the City Manager at my then-agency stopped all operations at my PD for a mandatory meeting with the City Manager at City Hall. Only people on pre-approved vacation outside of the County were exempt and everyone from the Chief down to the admin assistants were required to show up. The C.M. had a neighboring agency take over patrol functions for a pre-determined two hours while our folks sat through the meeting. The other agency reportedly had a lot of fun trying to take our traffic incidents and criminal reports for that time.

Keep in mind that a FD dispatcher or autodispatch may assume that one agency has jurisdiction, but city boundaries are weird and many county islands or partial intersections/streets exist inside of other areas, towns, or cities.

 

[n0doz]

Odd facts you may not know...

It's unusual, but there are extenuating circumstances where an LE agency may not take a traffic accident within their jurisdiction.

Agency involved incident and objectivity needs to be retained. Usually more serious incidents, but some agencies can and do use other agencies to investigate everything from OIS to traffic collisions involving the agency.

Agency does not have enough personnel to respond. Increasingly, more and more agencies do not have sufficient motor or patrol personnel to respond to traffic incidents in a timely manner. I took several reports in MCSO's area, for DPS, and even for Phoenix PD, in my time.

Administrative reason - Many years ago, the City Manager at my then-agency stopped all operations at my PD for a mandatory meeting with the City Manager at City Hall. Only people on pre-approved vacation outside of the County were exempt and everyone from the Chief down to the admin assistants were required to show up. The C.M. had a neighboring agency take over patrol functions for a pre-determined two hours while our folks sat through the meeting. The other agency reportedly had a lot of fun trying to take our traffic incidents and criminal reports for that time.

Keep in mind that a FD dispatcher or autodispatch may assume that one agency has jurisdiction, but city boundaries are weird and many county islands or partial intersections/streets exist inside of other areas, towns, or cities.

Well, not to brag, but I know every one of those. I was a Denver cop for 35 years, working in 2 patrol districts, Traffic/DUI, and the Airport Police District. I was a DRE back when people didn't know what it was.... came here to the Pointe at Squaw Peak in the summer of 1987 to teach my first class as an instructor. We went up for a ride with the PPD helicopter and had to put it down in a shopping center parking lot when the debris light came on. I was first runner-up for Colorado DUI Officer of the Year in 1986. Spent the last half of my career at the airport, including 12 years as a training officer and Airside Driver Trainer. I helped shut down the airport on 9/11 and helped re-open in a few days later. We had 40 officers assigned to us temporarily when all that happened and another FTO and myself built a 24-classroom-hour and OJT training program literally overnight, using it several times in the following 4 or 5 years to train additional groups of temporaries on what we decided was necessary for a police officer to work at a 56 square mile facility. When I left, we had grown to 130 full-time officers. K9s, detectives and bike patrols. I preferred airside, so I worked a car out there alongside the airplanes. I had a great time, didn't want to retire!
We had several of those nightmare intersections in the city. One of the "better" ones was Parker Rd/E. Iliff Av/Yale Av. We had 3 jurisdictions that intertwined. Couple inches this way was Denver; a couple the other way was Aurora... or was it Arapahoe County?

 

[n0doz]

By the way, I used to be a "cop-trivia master". I got even worse at the airport - they really have a ton of interesting stuff!
DIA is where I really got interested in fire stuff. We worked directly with DFD on a daily basis and I was assigned to a working committee with the Red Chief. I learned a lot about ARFF especially and also some structural stuff. Things were not as organized as they are out here, with a regional system for numbering apparatus and a couple of regional dispatch centers. Nearly every department out there was dispatching their own as of when I left. The contrasts between Colorado and here have held my interest for sure. Always seem to have new questions, and I really do appreciate the time you guys take to explain what's going on!