Wish we had gone with motorola

[Glenpool911]

I heard the dog was packing heat

Poor guy caught heck for that one.

Hope he enjoys the Pest Control business.

From what I have heard he was a good officer, just got caught in a bad situation and had to make a split decision.

 

[okla-lawman]

Two bravo those are not rumors. I have heard it from Ba dispatchers, officers and jailers. I beleive the target date is may 1st but I cant rember for sure. As far as county goes then Chief Brian Edwards did the contract negotiation for the Sheriffs office and it was las summer. They came VERY close to disbanding the Bixbt police dept. I have heard that some of the problems have been worked out so who knows. Several higher ups I know at the SO have all said their future is contract policing. Aparently
Bixby is not alone as Sperry, Jenks and Collinsville have all contacted them for information. Jenks was to the point of sighning contracts when something came up.

 

[OkRob]

I heard the dog was packing heat

Poor guy caught heck for that one.

Actually, his one finger salute to the news media was what did him in, not killing the golden retriever on the short chain. He would have probably been okay had he completed the class they had to take after the dog killing if he had not flipped off the camera. :shock:

 

[fireant]

I feel the media blew that whole thing out of whack. I have done the same thing without realizing it and not meaning anything by it. The media is always out to get cops. A good example of this awhile back they were following around the Okc police and filming them sitting in parking lots trying to dig up a story on them not patrolling and doing there jobs. Not all the media is bad without them the police would not be as successfull in catching criminals etc. But some stations I know of take things a little to far to get the ratings and harrass the cops and fire depts.

I do agree with that alot of departments think 800 mhz is a soluction to there communication problems but don't properly plan the system is the biggest problem they just think since the old one work the new system should too but you need more towers with the 800 mhz systems.

Just my thoughts

fireant

 

[CommShrek]

I heard the dog was packing heat

Poor guy caught heck for that one.

Actually, his one finger salute to the news media was what did him in, not killing the golden retriever on the short chain. He would have probably been okay had he completed the class they had to take after the dog killing if he had not flipped off the camera. :shock:

OkRob you are 100% correct in this statement. He was already in the clear, but telling the media you think they are "Number 1" they way he did ended his career with Bixby. Probably in NE Oklahoma thanks to the media attention.

 

[OkRob]

I feel the media blew that whole thing out of whack.

Yep, it was blown out of proportion by the media, but it WAS an attention getting story (officer answering alarm call, almost surely a false alarm, encounters harmless chained up golden retriever in backyard, shoots dog multiple times.... officers won't let neighbors take injured dog to animal hospital, etc.).

It was news and that's what they do.

We've gotten off-topic here now.....sorry!

On Bixby contracting out to BA and/or TCSO... I hadn't heard of that. Possible I suppose, but I don't see that happening. Bixby is having tremendous growth right now and there has to be more funds now for city services than they've ever seen.

 

[okla-lawman]

I heard the dog was packing heat

Poor guy caught heck for that one.

Actually, his one finger salute to the news media was what did him in, not killing the golden retriever on the short chain. He would have probably been okay had he completed the class they had to take after the dog killing if he had not flipped off the camera. :shock:

OkRob you are 100% correct in this statement. He was already in the clear, but telling the media you think they are "Number 1" they way he did ended his career with Bixby. Probably in NE Oklahoma thanks to the media attention.

I heard from an officer from another Dept with close ties to Bixby the officer who shot the dog may be getting his job back. Him flipping off
the press was not the mature of politically correct thing to to but GOD I have wanted to do it for years.

 

[mfolta1]

Hey fellas, dont assume ALL the media hate the police. I for one am 100% pro police. I have a known rep with many officers in the area for being pro police. they see me with a camera they know im there to cover the story, not any police misconduct.I for one am 100% ashamed of how the media covered that story, tulsa television stations with their stupid "fluppy updates" every other day just amazed me. The media should NEVER had chosen to go to the obedience classes and tape them.The Bixby chief should NEVER have sent his officers to obedience school. No one was there but the officer and the dog startled him, so what if the dog was on a chain. i have been fortunate enough to tag along with officers before while on burglar alarm calls and when were creeping along making sure the property is secure you jump at even the sound of the wind blowing. he only reacted as he did and ended up shooting the dog.Im sure he didnt wake up that day and think to himself"gee,,, im gonna shoot a dog today". The media drug this unfortunate event way out of line. If i didnt make the money i do i wouldnt have anything to do with the media. Anyway i just wanted to clarify not all media dislike the police, just the liberal ones.....
Oh yea, glenpool shoulda gone with moto!!!! i stay away from glenpool though, i sat here and heard the traffic on the explosion and didnt even think of going, i called someone else in.


www.latenitedrive.com

folta

 

[okla-lawman]

mfolta we dont hate or dislike all press just the bottom feeders. last summer reporters from 2 stations, one of whom toughted it self as being very pro police. would listen on their scanners. Every time a supervisor call about a complaint would go out they would call that person. Not only did it piss the people off, it violated the officers right to privacy. It also interferred with the supervisor doing his job as when he called the line was busy. Then when the supervisor did not get throught they wanted to call in and complain again.

 

[mfolta1]

sounds like fox and ch 2. Thats definatly lowball. as far as its all concerned it comes down to individual trust. i see things, hear things and know things 80% of the other media people would be on like flies on crap. i so often get pulled aside from the other stations and get told what went down and all the details because they know im not gonna go air it on the news or share it with other people,like i said i have a friendship with alot of officers, and it really isnt that they are cops, they are cool people i have met and developed a relationship with over time, they know im not gonna repeat anything that they have told me in private, my rule as a photog is to get the story on tape directly from the pio or officer in charge and thats all the station gets! i appreciate our police and their hard work and would never go looking for a "bad cop" story etc.......id love to do a "bad journalist" story though, wouldnt be that hard.

 

[CommShrek]

i stay away from glenpool though, i sat here and heard the traffic on the explosion and didnt even think of going, i called someone else in.


folta

Tell us why Mark.

 

[mfolta1]

well, i went down there last year on a huge building fire,some electric company was on fire, the fire dept were really cool guys, i met a guy from bixby they were called in to help, very cool, then i see all the other media high tail it out of there, i get in my car and my producer says theres been an accident in glenpool on 75, so i get there,all the other media is leaving, i go up to shoot the story and this officer tells me to leave,and when i walked about 3 feet away and started taking pictures he made this gesture and started trashing me to another officer. then there was the fatal semi crash on 75 in glenpool, wouldnt even let us near the scene, they made us stand about a qtr mile away, when some of my friends who are troopers showed up i went with them,i stayed about 10 yards from the wreckage and got some shots, i see a glenpool officer pull a trooper aside,the trooper says to me, they dont want you guys up here,so i went back to the original location they had us at.then approx 5 minutes later i see all the troopers come walking back and leaving and one of them said "they dont want us here its their crash" and they were leaving, so i said well if the troop are leaving im leaving and i did. i stay away out of courtesy, its obvious they dont want us there, im contract so i dont have to go, when something goes down in glenpool i call someone in or alert the station, there was a pursuit which ended in tulsa that glenpool started, 2 officers from glenpool were there and were very nice fellas, so i guess its that one bad egg syndrome thats got me.

 

[CommShrek]

well, i went down there last year on a huge building fire,some electric company was on fire, the fire dept were really cool guys, i met a guy from bixby they were called in to help, very cool, then i see all the other media high tail it out of there, i get in my car and my producer says theres been an accident in glenpool on 75, so i get there,all the other media is leaving, i go up to shoot the story and this officer tells me to leave,and when i walked about 3 feet away and started taking pictures he made this gesture and started trashing me to another officer. then there was the fatal semi crash on 75 in glenpool, wouldnt even let us near the scene, they made us stand about a qtr mile away, when some of my friends who are troopers showed up i went with them,i stayed about 10 yards from the wreckage and got some shots, i see a glenpool officer pull a trooper aside,the trooper says to me, they dont want you guys up here,so i went back to the original location they had us at.then approx 5 minutes later i see all the troopers come walking back and leaving and one of them said "they dont want us here its their crash" and they were leaving, so i said well if the troop are leaving im leaving and i did. i stay away out of courtesy, its obvious they dont want us there, im contract so i dont have to go, when something goes down in glenpool i call someone in or alert the station, there was a pursuit which ended in tulsa that glenpool started, 2 officers from glenpool were there and were very nice fellas, so i guess its that one bad egg syndrome thats got me.

Interesting to hear that. I was at every single one of those scenes. I agree with you that they have at least 1 bad egg. The cops are people too. At least, that's what they claim. :lol:

 

[mfolta1]

yep! their medics in glenpool are cool i met a couple awhile back, nice fellas. like the old saying goes though"ya cant please everybody"

 

[Glenpool911]

The Bixby chief should NEVER have sent his officers to obedience school.

LOL you have to know Bixby PD......

 

[Glenpool911]

The Bixby chief should NEVER have sent his officers to obedience school.

You have to know Bixby PD......

 

[Glenpool911]

yep! their medics in glenpool are cool i met a couple awhile back, nice fellas. like the old saying goes though"ya cant please everybody"

Lol sure not talking about Archer!!!! he he he

I think I know the Officer you are talking about. I for one would not have a problem with you at my scene as long as you stay out of the way. Which I'm sure you know to do.

To let you know why.....

Several of the media stations, don't want to mention 6 or 8, a couple of years back kept hammering us in the media and it left a bad taste in our mouths. The only time they would come down was when something bad went on in Glenpool. This was about the time of the Liberty pursuit in which the 2 teens died and the media made them look like heros and the officers like bad guys. I was there during the shooting and I did not appreciate the media coverage because all these so-called witnesses starting popping out saying they saw what happened. BULL!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for letting me vent.... I like the media, especially the cute reporters.....

 

[CommShrek]

Several of the media stations, don't want to mention 6 or 8, a couple of years back kept hammering us in the media and it left a bad taste in our mouths. The only time they would come down was when something bad went on in Glenpool. This was about the time of the Liberty pursuit in which the 2 teens died and the media made them look like heros and the officers like bad guys. I was there during the shooting and I did not appreciate the media coverage because all these so-called witnesses starting popping out saying they saw what happened. BULL!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for letting me vent.... I like the media, especially the cute reporters.....

Some other folks who read here were there at that scene. Yes, 2 teens died...2 teen scumbags that were contributing nothing good to society. It's a wonder no one has cut down those roadside crosses with a chainsaw by now. I'm sure the folks who were there understand the circumstances. I don't think very many people saw what happened either. Enough of that...

Anyway, I still don't care for the media in general. I see a lot more negative stories than positive and to me, it seems like the media is out to hang you if they get a chance. That's just my opinion, I will continue to steer clear of any cameras, reporters, video cameras, etc.

 

[mfolta1]

i hear ya, you know what the media and law enforcement have in common? if it werent for idiots wed have very boring jobs. i think its funny too, someone dies from being involved with a gang, or driving like an idiot or being a fool, and the media like to feel sorry for them etc, not me, remember when that idiot jumped on a raft last year here in tulsa during a thunderstorm and thought he would float crow creek and ended up drowning? well when they found his body i was smoking a cig and telling jokes,laughing and having a good time while the family members were about 20 yards away, next day i was told that the family called tpd and complained because we were laughing etc, bottom line, if you or someone makes a mistake and get hurt or die, im not gonna feel sorry for you or your family,now if its an act of god like a storm or house fire im gonna get my pix, get the hell out as quick as possible out of respect.i hate house fires, they are the hardest to cover knowing that someone livelyhood has just been destroyed... as for you cops out there, god love ya, i respect you and appreciate your hard work, i understand that a crime scene is your workplace and respect that. bixby glenpool etc, keep up the good work..later fellas...

folta.

 

[Chaos703]

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As politely as possible, I have to say that this is one of the most frightening things I've ever read. My God. If this officer gets his job back, I sure hope I or any member of my family never "startle" him. I, for one, don't think anyone who jumps at the sound of the wind blowing is a good candidate for packing heat.

Assuming the basic black-and-white facts (as opposed the the emotional reaction) reported by the media are even close to correct, this shooting represented a breakdown of shoot—don't shoot training on many, many levels. The distance of the animal. What or who could have been beyond the intended target. The dog being tied up. The officer being informed of the presence of the dog before he went in the yard. I could go on and on. There is no way the threat could have possibly been properly evaluated before he fired. If it had been even basically evaluated, he never would have fired (I hope).

The only thing I could guess is that he has some spooky paranoia or deep seated fear of dogs. If you think about it, the consequences for a bad shooting so drastically out weigh the trauma of a dog bite, I can't imagine why he would risk it. I sure would take a dog bite in leu of risking a bad shooting. I know from personal experience that there are a heck of a lot worse things that can happen than getting bite by a dog.

I'm about as staunch a supporter of the police as can be found. But I'm not going to support such a irresponsible act JUST BECAUSE the actor was an officer. As has been said: there are good eggs, bad eggs and eggs that probably don't have the decision making ability necessary to carry a gun.

As far as the Glenpool radio disaster goes, I wonder if it would help to take some of these apathetic city council members out on a ride along to show them first hand how dangerous the radios really are? This has to be made an officer safety issue. I also strongly disagree that Glenpool911 is out of line for taking about this issue publicly. Seems clear to me that he as utilized all the proper channels with no results. This is an issue of public concern. Not just public safety, but also the use of taxpayer dollars. The elected officials won't take the proper action, the issue shouldn't be swept under the rug, it ought to be presented to the public. The citizens of Glenpool are, after all, the ones in charger of their government and public safety.