Wouxun Service Manual Glitch?

[MrQ]

I found a service manual for my KG-UVD1P at several sites but when scrolling down the pages, the parts locator on the pcbs pages keep superimposing on each other, even when printing out the manual. Some other pages seem to be missing parts.

Has anyone had this problem with this service manual offered on the web?

 

[kb2vxa]

Without the URL there's no way of observing the problem so no way to figure it out.

 

[SCPD]

Here is what I found - it's fine: http://wouxun.us/Manuals/KGUVD1P Service Manual.pdf
~~~hmmmmm...maybe not!.....

 

[MrQ]

OK. Here's one link other than the one posted in the reply above and both have the same problem - pages partially loading with the parts layout pcb views. Having trouble posting a link but Ed's link above has the same problems as I have.

When going to the link and the site downloads, an anouncement pops up about needing a "Chinese font add-on" for Adobe. Is this the problem?

I updated the Adobe reader for the Chinese font that was needed and the manual seemed to load better and completely except for oage 38 - where 3 parts layout images are still superimposed on page 38. Other pages are duplicates but except for the page 38 problem, I managed to print out the whole manual.

So with the Adobe update add-on, does anyone still have the page 38 problem?

 

[w2xq]

I opted to open the file in Adobe Acrobat X Pro, as both Chrome and IE choked on the link. The file has 43 pages. By opening the URL with X's "File/Open", that did the trick. It seems OK to me, but I didn't try to print out the PDF. The original fie was something weird and indicated that it was locked; I have no idea how it was put together. I don't know if RR can take a 4mb file attachment, so I posted the PDF file into my public Dropbox: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22653286/KGUVD1P_Service_Manual.pdf. Adobe Reader v7 or higher is required to open Acrobat X files. Please tell me when you have it, so I can delete it to recover space... hope this helps.

 

[w2xq]

Looking at the 3.85 mb PDF again, I now see the page size is neither letter or A4. It is an odd 8.27 x 11.69 in page; I don't know if this is a standard size sheet in China. The document was produced using Adobe PDFMaker 8.1 For Word. The drawings at the end of the file are tough for me to read. A minimum of 400% magnification is OK, but I like 800% better. The problem is that I wind up playing peek-a-boo sliding a small window around the page. I'd be tempted to take the file to one of the quick-print chain stores and have them print the images following the parts list (p. 34 ff) on the largest paper and printer available. HTH.

 

[MrQ]

Thanks for the reply Tom. The link made it OK but when I look at page 38, the same thing happens - 3 images on top of each other slightly offset. Could you send me a copy of page 38 via a PM or post a link to it at your end? I have all the other pages printed out fine but 38 is a problem.

 

[Comint]

Looking at the 3.85 mb PDF again, I now see the page size is neither letter or A4. It is an odd 8.27 x 11.69 in page; I don't know if this is a standard size sheet in China.

I believe 8.27 x 11.69 inches (210.058 x 296.925 mm) is a very close approximation of the A4 page dimensions of 210 x 297 mm.

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Comint

 

[w2xq]

OK here is the link to the huge 1.96mb page 38: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22653286/KGUVD1P_Service_Manual_p38.pdf. I only have 2gb RAM in this Asus eee1018pc {video on my main laptop isn't working) and the screen draw takes forever with multiple passes. The drawing almost acts like an SVG file. Opening the PDF in Photoshop CS5, I was able to rasterize (10 min) the image (2.17mb): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22653286/KGUVD1P_Service_Manual_p38.jpg. I think the overlays are out of there. Perhaps one or both of these files may work for you, Let me know. HTH.

 

[MrQ]

Tom and Ed - Have either of you actually looked at page 38 after it loads? Tom, I clicked on each of your links - one is a small version of the other larger one but when either loads, the same thing happens - 3 drawings get superimposed (and offset from each other) on each other, just like all the other web sites I've tried. Why only one page out of 43 is not loading properly????? Page size is not an issue here - but the 3 on one drawing is, which is the problem I'm trying to solve.

 

[SCPD]

Well I wasn't really interested in pursuing it - just providing the link I found.

But yes, there is something very stange about p. 38 (maybe others). I printed it and it prints as it was displayed with the overlapping.

 

[MrQ]

Yes, Ed, When I first tried downloading the manual, a couple of parts layout board pictures only loaded partially while page 38 did what it currently does. After a window came up about needing a "chinese font add-on", I downloaded that software and the partial pages now load fully but the page 38 still loads 3 times on top of itself and stagged.

So now I know it's not something I'm doing wrong here, since someone else is having the same problem. Tried to contact the co. but no luck.

So the question remains, does anyone know how to fix the page 38 problem?

Thanks guys for your trouble and time.

 

[puzzleriddle]

seems to look ok with foxit reader

 

[w2xq]

I swear that at least the jpg I made with Photoshop was OK when I made it up and reviewed it in Windows Photo Viewer. I have no idea what the manual's author did or perhaps the PC writing out the file didn't have enough memory. I do know I've run out of ideas to fix that page 38 drawing. I'll dump the files from my Dropbox. Sorry, I tried.

 

[MrQ]

Thanks Tom and to those who tried to help me out.

I'll try Puzzleriddle's suggestion and see what happens.

Well, with the foxit reader, the same happens on page 38. It's hard to tell by looking at the "triple" view but I'm now wondering if the board is a triple layered pcb. If so, Wouxun printed all 3 layers on one picture and the middle layer (if there is one) is the second image down on page 38???

I know I'm not going to remove the pcb and hold it up to a light to find out! So if anyone knows if it is a 3 layered board, please chime in so I can put this aggravating problem behind me?

 

[nd5y]

Any board that small with that many parts on it is probably has more than three layers.
You probably can't tell by holding it up to light becuase sometimes a whole layer can be all copper or only etched away around the traces, vias and holes.

 

[SCPD]

Well it likely is multi-layer. The Title on the page says Mainboard Bottom Layer Digit No. Chart. Don't know what that means - maybe part numbers?

Anyway the graphic(s) makes no sense since they are not the same size and overlap each other. Never seen anything like that before. I have designed multi-layer pc boards for military applications.

 

[MrQ]

Thanks Ed - Guess I'll give in and suspect the page diagram is an error on the part of its creators.

If anyone has any other ideas on the problem, feel free to add your 2 cents.