WQEE893

[frankie811]

WQEE893 is the call sign for public safety in Providence. According to FCC records, this call sign has expired & was canceled in 2016. Can this be right!? ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQEE893 - Rhode Island, State of - Emergency Management Agency

 

[W1KNE]

It was replaced by WQZW806. Same exact licensed parameters.

 

[frankie811]

It was replaced by WQZW806. Same exact licensed parameters.

They are still using WQEE893. The PFD uses it during the 0800-1800 radio equipment check.

 

[W1KNE]

You mean they are still 'mentioning' it? If I had a dollar for every expired call sign said during the radio roll calls, I'd be a able to buy a meal at Greggs with dessert!

 

[GTR8000]

Exactly...old habits die hard. How about announcing a 50 year old low band license over a 700 MHz trunked system for 6 years before anyone realized? 💀

As long as the frequencies are properly licensed, it really doesn't matter.

 

[frankie811]

As long as we're on the subject, the East Providence Fire Department went from VHF-470Mhz-RISCON using the same callsign: KCB723.

 

[ecps92]

As long as we're on the subject, the East Providence Fire Department went from VHF-470Mhz-RISCON using the same callsign: KCB723.

you mean Verbalizing the same call sign. RISCON has no KCB723

As others have mentioned, Some call signs are entrenched into memory, engraved on a console and are long expired in the FCC Databases, yet still used Verbally on a daily basis.

 

[W1KNE]

Maybe with the leftover money, I could buy a nice pizza for lunch from Town Pizza in Riverside!

 

[frankie811]

Maybe with the leftover money, I could buy a nice pizza for lunch from Town Pizza in Riverside!

I ordered medium-well-done steak tips from there a LONG time ago & the order taker asked me what I meant by medium-well-done. I hung up on him.

 

[frankie811]

You mean they are still 'mentioning' it? If I had a dollar for every expired call sign said during the radio roll calls, I'd be a able to buy a meal at Greggs with dessert!

Isn't this against FCC rules & regulations?

 

[W1KNE]

Isn't this against FCC rules & regulations?

Nope. The ID is done on the lowest frequency of the trunk system in CWID. What's said verbally doesn't count because of that. Now if the CWID is wrong, that could be an issue. But the FCC doesn't enforce two way call sign identification anymore. There are many departments where you have no clue what it is. No repeater CWIDs or verbal statements.

 

[W1KNE]

I ordered medium-well-done steak tips from there a LONG time ago & the order taker asked me what I meant by medium-well-done. I hung up on him.

That's why you don't go there for Steak Tips. Stick to Pizza. For Steak Tips, the best place to go used to be SAX Steak House but they've been gone for years.

 

[frankie811]

That's why you don't go there for Steak Tips. Stick to Pizza. For Steak Tips, the best place to go used to be SAX Steak House but they've been gone for years.

NO, Sax Steak is still in business. They didn't close, they moved years ago. Sax's Official Home Page!! See Daily Specials Here!!

 

[KB18]

KCB-723 Is the call sign of the East Providence Fire department The FCC allocates a call sign to a department NOT to a frequency For example East Providence fire department operates on three different channels They do not have a different call sign for each channel ONLY the department Also when a ham operator is granted a call sign it if for the operator not for a frequency He can transmit on 2 meter or 10 meter not one specific frequency Hope that helps

 

[GTR8000]

KCB-723 Is the call sign of the East Providence Fire department The FCC allocates a call sign to a department NOT to a frequency For example East Providence fire department operates on three different channels They do not have a different call sign for each channel ONLY the department

Well, that's not exactly the full picture. Individual agencies can hold many call signs/licenses for many different frequencies, they are certainly not limited to a single license. You cannot compare a ham license to a Part 90 license, they are apples and oranges.

 

[cmpsa]

They failed to renew WQEE893 before the expiration date of 1/10/16. They filed 3 renewals after the expiration date and the FCC denied all three (3), which is why it shows canceled). So they had to apply from scratch through frequency coordination for a new call sign, which is where WQZW806 was issued.

 

[W1KNE]

If you really like legal speak, you can read the exact rule on part 90 station identification here.

47 CFR § 90.425 - Station identification.

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[frankie811]

KCB-723 Is the call sign of the East Providence Fire department The FCC allocates a call sign to a department NOT to a frequency For example East Providence fire department operates on three different channels They do not have a different call sign for each channel ONLY the department Also when a ham operator is granted a call sign it if for the operator not for a frequency He can transmit on 2 meter or 10 meter not one specific frequency Hope that helps

The EPFD operates in 3 different talk groups, not channels. They previously had 3 channels in the 470Mhz band.