The Cheyenne tower has 155.43 as a control channel at the moment. It could be the alternate to 154.07 ?, It is still showing no tower information.
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mikeh
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how much of the radio traffic is encipted
how much of the radio traffic is encipted
what do you hear on the system
how much of the radio traffic is encipted
what do you hear on the system
I just hear the 9600 baud signal nothing else, no tower info.
Will the pro96 handle the narrow band vhf, or would the uniden model be better.
Will the pro96 handle the narrow band vhf, or would the uniden model be better.
I suspect you will see more towers come online in the coming weeks. I am sure that the state of Wyoming is eager to have the first phase of this system online ASAP! I just hope they don't do a lot of encryption.
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Ron
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Ron
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The 155.43 seems to be on all the time. 154.01 is the Pine Bluffs control channel. I would expect to hear some voice testing at some point.
The 155.43 seems to be on all the time. 154.01 is the Pine Bluffs control channel. I would expect to hear some voice testing at some point.
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I would too! After the towers are completed, look for some comprehensive range testing to seek out any potential dead-spots and do some significant system tuning. However, once that phase is complete, I would start to look for the regular system users to come online. Then they will move onto phase two.
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Ron
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I guess that my question is, just what counties or `districts' is this first part actually covering? Is it limited to, lessay, just Laramie, Albany, Platte, and Goshen counties (Basically the SE corner of the state.) or are they also getting other sites throughout the state up but no one has actually heard or found them yet? Also... What about Natrona county and it's surrounding counties? Are they going to be `co-using' some of their sites as theirs or are they going to have to build their own sites?
The first phase of the system is designed to cover the southeastern part of the state, and does from what I understand include Natrona County. Phase two, will continue onward where the first phase leaves off. Since the WyoLink TRS uses the same exact system architecture that we have here in Michigan, there is nothing to say that a city or a county can erect their own TRS, as long as its follows P-25 protocols.
For instance, let's say Campbell County installed their own P-25 TRS operating on the same radio band as the WyoLink System. However, they decide to install three tower sites that transmit on the same channel pairs from each tower site. This type of system is called a simulcast system, and transmits off two or more tower sites in the same area, at the same time. Campbell County decided to make this part of the WyoLink TRS, and their controller and towers are connected via the microwave backbone; hence becoming one seamless system. Moreover, with the current ASTRO dynamic platform, it's possible to have P-25 trunking systems on other bands become subsystems to the primary network.
In theory, this means that the cities of Casper and Cheyenne on 800 MHz, could become subsystems of WyoLink TRS, and would be limited by the range of their system, but could have full talkgroup integration if needed on both systems. All that would be needed is that they both have ASTRO Platform 6.3 or higher, and then become interconnected via the microwave backbone.
The possibilities are endless.
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Ron
For instance, let's say Campbell County installed their own P-25 TRS operating on the same radio band as the WyoLink System. However, they decide to install three tower sites that transmit on the same channel pairs from each tower site. This type of system is called a simulcast system, and transmits off two or more tower sites in the same area, at the same time. Campbell County decided to make this part of the WyoLink TRS, and their controller and towers are connected via the microwave backbone; hence becoming one seamless system. Moreover, with the current ASTRO dynamic platform, it's possible to have P-25 trunking systems on other bands become subsystems to the primary network.
In theory, this means that the cities of Casper and Cheyenne on 800 MHz, could become subsystems of WyoLink TRS, and would be limited by the range of their system, but could have full talkgroup integration if needed on both systems. All that would be needed is that they both have ASTRO Platform 6.3 or higher, and then become interconnected via the microwave backbone.
The possibilities are endless.
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Ron
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OK. So Natrona County is supposedly `Southeastern'? Hmmmmmmm... {GRIN!} Any idea of the `timetable' for this `phase one' `rollout' for the State as VS places like Natrona County and Casper? (We were up in Wheatland around the end of July, looking for property, and I noticed that there were a bunch of what looked like new tower sites between there and Cheyenne. Dunno if they all were for the State or what but quite a few of them definitely looked to be still under construction as we went by. [Unfortunately I was behind the wheel both times and we were running a bit late on the way up, got caught in the UP steam train excursion `crunch', and in a bit of a hurry to get back home on the way back down, got off a bit late because a Realtor didn't show up on time, so I wasn't able to take much time to run a `SignalStalker' or just plain search or go and investigate a bit closer. {FROWN!}])Thunderbolt said:
I can pretty much understand how it works in theory but am still wondering a bit just how Wyoming is actually going to get it done. They are probably going to have to co-locate a few new sites throughout the state in some areas and possibly also have to put up solely occupied sites in others and I expect that there will be some `issues' either way in some places. (Natrona County and Casper readily spring to mind. {VB GRIN!} While it has been a few years since I lived there I was born and raised there I doubt that everything is now completely / suddenly`sweetness-n-light' between certain towns, counties, and the state. {GRIN! } Wyomingites can be a pretty rowdy and fiercely independant bunch at times. {CHORTLE!} [Still... There are a lot of supposed `yahoos' that I'd trust watching my six there than I would anyplace else. {VB GRIN!}] )
Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth.
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It appears that there is going to be delay in getting Wyolink going. The master control station does not yet have power, and the tower contracter went bankrupt. There is still plans to have the towers up and running to Casper by next year. Right now you can hear the control channels on US 85 south and Pine Bluffs. There is no data coming out of them yet, I think because the master station is not up yet. Does anyone else know what is going on?
It appears that there is going to be delay in getting Wyolink going. The master control station does not yet have power, and the tower contracter went bankrupt. There is still plans to have the towers up and running to Casper by next year. Right now you can hear the control channels on US 85 south and Pine Bluffs. There is no data coming out of them yet, I think because the master station is not up yet. Does anyone else know what is going on?
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"Does anyone else know what's going on?" Well, yes. I do. (I'm the Project Manager)
It sounds like you have a good rumor mill. Please tell me where you are getting your information.
Here's the straight scoop:
Four sites are on the air, (85-South, Russel Hill, North Albin, Whitcomb) and Sherman Hill is being built now. There was a delay in the frequency plan, which is why Sherman's combiner is delayed. It should be on the air before the end of the month.
There is a delay with the Master Site electrical power, but that is being resolved.
The first live users are expected in late Spring 2006. Until then the system will undergo testing and trail use. A series of exercises are planned.
As to encyption (you should learn to spell that word): Encyption is a user option that will be implemented by each agency as it chooses. You can count on critical law encforcement using encyption.
For more information, check the project web page or ask a question of the Project Manager.
It sounds like you have a good rumor mill. Please tell me where you are getting your information.
Here's the straight scoop:
Four sites are on the air, (85-South, Russel Hill, North Albin, Whitcomb) and Sherman Hill is being built now. There was a delay in the frequency plan, which is why Sherman's combiner is delayed. It should be on the air before the end of the month.
There is a delay with the Master Site electrical power, but that is being resolved.
The first live users are expected in late Spring 2006. Until then the system will undergo testing and trail use. A series of exercises are planned.
As to encyption (you should learn to spell that word): Encyption is a user option that will be implemented by each agency as it chooses. You can count on critical law encforcement using encyption.
For more information, check the project web page or ask a question of the Project Manager.
rumors
Some of the info is from rumors. Some was from listening to the pro 96. Happened to be in Pine Bluffs and did a sweep looking for Nebraska stuff and discovered the control channel for over there. It is a lot of fun to experiment with the scanner and try to figure out whats going on.
It sounds like the project is very challenging with all the licensing issues etc. I live east of Cheyenne and can hear the Albin, US 85 towers quite well. I am looking forward to having a trunked system around that is not totally encrypted (encypted) like FE Warren or that is a stretch to receive like the Colorado state system. Interesting, Kimball county Ne has aquired some VHF trunking frequencies.
I bet that the system will work quite well when it gets done. Wyoming really doesn't have a lot of stuff to cram on there like Colorado does. It should be almost as much fun to listen to as the lowband skip from California in the summer.
Some of the info is from rumors. Some was from listening to the pro 96. Happened to be in Pine Bluffs and did a sweep looking for Nebraska stuff and discovered the control channel for over there. It is a lot of fun to experiment with the scanner and try to figure out whats going on.
It sounds like the project is very challenging with all the licensing issues etc. I live east of Cheyenne and can hear the Albin, US 85 towers quite well. I am looking forward to having a trunked system around that is not totally encrypted (encypted) like FE Warren or that is a stretch to receive like the Colorado state system. Interesting, Kimball county Ne has aquired some VHF trunking frequencies.
I bet that the system will work quite well when it gets done. Wyoming really doesn't have a lot of stuff to cram on there like Colorado does. It should be almost as much fun to listen to as the lowband skip from California in the summer.
Halfpint
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Far out! Nice to see you here! (You *do* know that you are a `rarity', don't you? {VB GRIN!}) Thanks for dropping in!Nightowl53 said:
`Scannists' can be pretty `resourceful' at times. {GRIN!} And combined with places like this, RR, and a bit of `legwork' quite often quite a few things can sometimes usually be `figured out' one way or another. {VB GRIN!}
*One* of things about WyoLink that is quite `refreshing' is that there *isn't* a big push to slam 800MHz down everyone's throats and recognizing that there are places and times when there are other `bands' that work better. It's even better, at least from this `displaced' though hopefully returning soon `native's' point of view, that Wyoming is where it is recognized and happening.
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The Russell Hill Site (pine Bluffs) Has Been Very Active Today, Sounds Like They Are Checking All Frequencies. This May Change Things On The Data Base.
The Russell Hill Site (pine Bluffs) Has Been Very Active Today, Sounds Like They Are Checking All Frequencies. This May Change Things On The Data Base.
Nightowl53
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Something to be aware of: We have been putting some channels in a digital test pattern. This is being done to flush out interference issues and to provide a signal for coverage drive testing. So, what you hear may not be the control channel.
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GOLDENDOME said:
Something to be aware of: We have been putting some channels in a digital test pattern. This is being done to flush out interference issues and to provide a signal for coverage drive testing. So, what you hear may not be the control channel.
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Halfpint
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Nightowl53 said:
*Thank you*!
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I am hearing what sounds like voice testing on the Albin site 155.505. It is either encrypted or my receive signal is not too good. I should have a pretty good signal as I am 8 miles east of Cheyenne and am listening on a Pro-96 hooked to a VHF 4 bay dipole array.
I am hearing what sounds like voice testing on the Albin site 155.505. It is either encrypted or my receive signal is not too good. I should have a pretty good signal as I am 8 miles east of Cheyenne and am listening on a Pro-96 hooked to a VHF 4 bay dipole array.
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Has anybody heard anything? I would think that something should start going since it is now 2006.
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