XTL5000 01/90 Failure.

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Woke up this morning to my XTL5000 stuck in a reboot loop after flashing SELF CHECK... 01/90. It just keeps rebooting repeatedly.

The RF deck isn’t warm, so I’m suspecting a power issue. The 15A fuse is fine, so that’s not the culprit. I tried programming via J2 with a USB cable, but the radio isn’t recognized. Could it be an onboard fuse failure?

I’ve had this unit for a long time with no previous issues—it’s always been stored in a cooled closet. I’m worried the RF deck might be fried.

Model: M20KSS9PW1AN (Mid Power Brick)
Control Head: W9 (Tested and working with an 800MHz brick)

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[merlin]

Something in the radio has failed. If it won't talk to the outside world with any programming method, it is a doorstop

 

[MTS2000des]

If you can get it to talk to the outside world, one can try a recovery in CPS. Most likely, EEPROM failure and what he said, chunk it and find a new one. These relic radios are dying of old age/EEPROM failure as most are approaching 20 years old soon.

 

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If you can get it to talk to the outside world, one can try a recovery in CPS. Most likely, EEPROM failure and what he said, chunk it and find a new one. These relic radios are dying of old age/EEPROM failure as most are approaching 20 years old soon.

Interesting It's not that old i think it was originally purchased in 2011? Maybe 2010. I wonder if trying a comport instead of usb might help or replace the chip.

 

[MTS2000des]

2010 was 15 years ago. Those radios EOLed in 2014. Time marches on.

 

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2010 was 15 years ago. Those radios EOLed in 2014. Time marches on.

Found the culprit possible. No power beyond the fuse

 

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After some more research, seems like either a fuse or other component issue. The rd deck isn't receiving any power and i tested my supply/cables with another unit and it works fine. Tempted to see if there's maybe corrosion too somewhere but I'm gonna start to test all connections on the board to find a fault. I will keep this updated.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

01/90 in its simplest form is a communications error between the head and deck. Do not discount the head, remote cable, TIB and flex from the board to the TIB. Of course it could also be the drawer, but we have had all three of the above fail and the board in the deck be just fine.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

After some more research, seems like either a fuse or other component issue. The rd deck isn't receiving any power and i tested my supply/cables with another unit and it works fine. Tempted to see if there's maybe corrosion too somewhere but I'm gonna start to test all connections on the board to find a fault. I will keep this updated.

The VRMs on the main board could also have failed. We have seen that too. One stringer we maintain once popped about 10 XTLs in his car by being nice and jumpstarting another car.

 

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01/90 in its simplest form is a communications error between the head and deck. Do not discount the head, remote cable, TIB and flex from the board to the TIB. Of course it could also be the drawer, but we have had all three of the above fail and the board in the deck be just fine.

Head is fine cables are fine. Something in the brick.

 

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The VRMs on the main board could also have failed. We have seen that too. One stringer we maintain once popped about 10 XTLs in his car by being nice and jumpstarting another car.

Can these be replaced or more than likely no

 

[MTS2000des]

How much time and money you wish to waste? These oldies are cheaper to replace than revive. Zero support from MSI, so you're on your own.

 

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How much time and money you wish to waste? These oldies are cheaper to replace than revive. Zero support from MSI, so you're on your own

I'll figure it out. I don't like E-waste so

 

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Fuse on board seems to be fine. Seems as if maybe theres more issues.... Gonna try a serial cable instead of USB so maybe we can read the brick

 

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VERY GOOD UPDATE! Device seems to be seen in CPS, but doesnt wanna completely work. Attempting a software update i get a error saying my device needs to say maintainence not FL 01/90.

EDIT: Ordering a SERIAL cable but i jerry rigged one up and seems to work.

 

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Mind you im using a W9 control head and it wants me to try and use a O series. I might buy a dash config O5 and see if i can do it that way.