XTS5000 cloning

[madrabbitt]

Can a XTS5000 model 3 clone to a model 2? Both directions possible?

I'm 90% sure that the problem exists between the radio and the ground (i.e. the comm tech is an idiot) but he's insisting that its not working with both cables that he has.

Really not in the mood for a 4 hour round trip TWICE on my day off next week.

 

[ElroyJetson]

No.

Motorola is notorious for making their high tier radios without a cloning function.

In fact, you can't even use the codeplug from one radio in another similar radio unless the features in that radio are IDENTICAL.

YOU CAN NOT CLONE A MODEL III TO A MODEL II OR MODEL I, EVER.

ONLY the same model, ONLY with the same exact feature set.

Only then can you clone from one to the other and only via the CPS. There is no radio to radio cloning on an XTS using only a cloning cable. (Unless someone invented such a thing when I wasn't looking.)

 

[madrabbitt]

Cache radios have Q52 Federal FPP and Q53 FPP & Cloning

First page of softkeys is zone, clone, FPP.

My personal XTS doesnt have it enabled, even though i have the options in the flash, but all our agency ones do.

But I'm guessing the problem is the fact that he's trying to clone model 2's off the model 3.

Oh well, guess i'll earn some OT this check.

 

[N4KVE]

Just to clarify, the model # needs to be exactly the same, the FW version needs to be exactly the same, & the flash code needs to be exactly the same. Should all 3 be exactly the same, you can clone.

 

[djpaulino]

Can a XTS5000 model 3 clone to a model 2? Both directions possible?

I'm 90% sure that the problem exists between the radio and the ground (i.e. the comm tech is an idiot) but he's insisting that its not working with both cables that he has.

Really not in the mood for a 4 hour round trip TWICE on my day off next week.

Yes, we are idiots until you come to the come to the comm unit to get new batteries, maybe a speaker mic, or your radio repaired..

 

[madrabbitt]

Yes, we are idiots until you come to the come to the comm unit to get new batteries, maybe a speaker mic, or your radio repaired..

Oh, no. Its pretty much proven this specific tech is an idiot.He's had a taskbook open for 3 seasons and had something like 4 deployments already, still not qualified.
Long term fire, we've pretty much cycled thru everyone.

Comm unit leader called me this morning to tell me what the problem was.

He tried cloning logistics radios from command radios.

For those of you who dont work in the wildland fire world, logistics radios are UHF. command radios are VHF.
They are stored in different colored, clearly labeled boxes.
They have different color stickers on them.

My head hurts now.

Just to clarify, the model # needs to be exactly the same, the FW version needs to be exactly the same, & the flash code needs to be exactly the same. Should all 3 be exactly the same, you can clone.

The best thing about cache radios, pretty much guaranteed that the flash and FW will be the same on every single one in the box.
Also, apparently all command radios are model 3.

 

[SCPD]

Drag and drop.

 

[SCPD]

Can a XTS5000 model 3 clone to a model 2? Both directions possible?

I'm 90% sure that the problem exists between the radio and the ground (i.e. the comm tech is an idiot) but he's insisting that its not working with both cables that he has.

Really not in the mood for a 4 hour round trip TWICE on my day off next week.

Open two windows of cps. Then open your target radio read the codeplug. Open the other radios plug. Now drag and drop the very top icon across to other. Drag and drop. Done. Some minor changes might need be made but overall saves time.

 

[madrabbitt]

it seems some people dont understand what i meant by cloning. I mean radio to radio direct in the field WITHOUT a computer w/ programming cable.

Edit: just pulled the cable out of my desk, it is part number RKN4108. Google it and you'll see what i mean.

 

[N4KVE]

LOL. The last time I saw a radio to radio clone actually work was between 2 HT600's. Mid 90's. This was long before Host/DSP, or flash codes existed. But again, the radio model #, flash code, & Host/DSP would need to be exactly the same. Normally entities who have huge fleets of radios do keep them the same to clone easily.