1040 & 1065 question

[N5SRG]

Last week while at a doctor app in Beaumont, Texas which is the heart of the Southeast Texas Regional Radio System, my 1065 mounted in my truck wouldn't get the Beaumont system yet the 1040 would. They are both programmed the same. Any ideas on this? The 1065 did get Orange, Texas part which is where I'm from.
One other question: when they are locked onto a signal the second line shows a "D" followed by a "g" with the frequency to the right. Sometimes the "g" changes to "G". Doesn"t explain in the books. What's it mean?

 

[lamarrsy]

Isn’t G the Global Attenuator function ?
(I say this from memory, from my WS-1080)

 

[tvengr]

Isn’t G the Global Attenuator function ?
(I say this from memory, from my WS-1080)

If G is showing, on the top line, the attenuator mode is set to global. The global attenuator is not on unless it shows GA. If GA is on, all frequencies in scanner are attenuated. If G is off, the attenuator can be set separately for each object. Upper case D on the second line = Delay On. Lower case d = Delay Off. Were you listening to both scanners at the same time? Beaumont PD is partially encrypted. Also, the Jefferson County site is simulcast. You were probably getting more signal with a mobile antenna than the stock antenna on the 1040. When dealing with simulcast, less signal is more. Even slight differences in location between the mobile antenna and the 1040 can make a difference with a simulcast site.

 

[Indianabrad]

I have several of those scanners and I wish there was a way to display site names, is this impossible? I also have a 1095, 1098 and a TRX2 which these scanners show site names by default, which I enjoy greatly since I have 4 sites programmed in. But I have not figured out a way to show site names on the 197/1065/600/652-1040/106/651/500(s) which are one and the same.

 

[N5SRG]

If G is showing, on the top line, the attenuator mode is set to global. The global attenuator is not on unless it shows GA. If GA is on, all frequencies in scanner are attenuated. If G is off, the attenuator can be set separately for each object. Upper case D on the second line = Delay On. Lower case d = Delay Off. Were you listening to both scanners at the same time? Beaumont PD is partially encrypted. Also, the Jefferson County site is simulcast. You were probably getting more signal with a mobile antenna than the stock antenna on the 1040. When dealing with simulcast, less signal is more. Even slight differences in location between the mobile antenna and the 1040 can make a difference with a simulcast site.

Yes, I had both scanners going at same time. 1065 mounted in truck, 1040 on console using a rubber duck. 1065 got nothing with externally mounted antenna. 1040 worked perfectly. Both programmed exactly same.

 

[tvengr]

Yes, I had both scanners going at same time. 1065 mounted in truck, 1040 on console using a rubber duck. 1065 got nothing with externally mounted antenna. 1040 worked perfectly. Both programmed exactly same.

Typical symptoms of simulcast distortion. Does the 1065 start working as you drive around?

 

[ka3aaa]

my pro-197 shows the site names that i have programmed in when i programmed it, what software are you using to program your scanner.

 

[N5SRG]

Typical symptoms of simulcast distortion. Does the 1065 start working as you drive around?

Works fine except will not get Beaumont tower or traffic at all, even in Beaumont as I drive by the tower!

 

[tvengr]

The PRO-197 will show site names only if each site is programmed as a separate system and the site is part of the system name. If the control channels for multiple sites are programmed into the frequency list, there is no way of knowing which site you are scanning.

 

[tvengr]

Works fine except will not get Beaumont tower or traffic at all, even in Beaumont as I drive by the tower!

Check to see if you accidentally locked out one or more of the Jefferson County Simulcast site frequencies or Beaumont talkgroups.

 

[N5SRG]

Just got to Beaumont. Had 325p2, 1040, and 1065 scanning Jeffetson county. Only handhelds got Jefferson County. So, I cloned 1040 to 1065, still nothing out of 1065 for Jefferson County. It'll get everything else just not Jefferson County. Even after being cloned from the 1040. Running out of ideas. And this is with only simulcast site freqs programmed in.

 

[tvengr]

Cloning the radio does not affect the firmware. It is possible the firmware in the 1065 could be corrupted. For both the 1040 and 1065, hold in the 3 button while turning on the scanner and see what the uP App Ver and DSP App Ver are.

 

[tvengr]

Re: my previous post: I want to make sure both of your scanners have the latest firmware. We can reload the firmware on the 1065 to see if that helps. If not, we will do an EEPROM memory test. I know of one other member who had a similar problem. The EEPROM test showed an error. Surprisingly, after reprogramming the scanner after the EEPROM test, it began working normally again. You will need to clone the 1040 back to the 1065 after an EEPROM test.

 

[N5SRG]

Cloning the radio does not affect the firmware. It is possible the firmware in the 1065 could be corrupted. For both the 1040 and 1065, hold in the 3 button while turning on the scanner and see what the uP App Ver and DSP App Ver are.

Just checked scanner in truck
Dsp App ver F1.4
uP Appl very F2.9

Don't know how to do test in other response

 

[tvengr]

You have the latest firmware. We will try reloading it just in case it is corrupted. Save the attached zipped file to your computer and extract. Hold the PROG button while turning on the scanner. That will place the scanner into CPU firmware upgrade mode. Connect the scanner to your computer with the programming cable. Run the extracted CPU Updater. The 1040 and 1065 use the same firmware.

 

[lamarrsy]

Did you try antenna swapping ? E.g. using the portable with the mobile antenna ?

 

[tvengr]

You can try swapping antennas. Since other systems are working, it would seem to indicate that it is not an antenna problem. Does NOAA weather work OK? If the firmware reloading doesn't correct the problem, try cloning the 1040 to the 1065 after the update. Make sure you do the Clone Send on the 1040. If the scanner still fails to function, do the EEPROM memory test. Turn the scanner off. Turn the scanner back on. At the welcome screen, press 0 and then 5. The EEPROM test will erase the scanner memory. You will need to clone the 1040 to the 1065 again, even if the EEPROM shows an error. Some have made a miraculous recovery after the EEPROM test. If the scanner still fails to work, it will be time for a trip to Whistler.

 

[Indianabrad]

The PRO-197 will show site names only if each site is programmed as a separate system

Thanks for pointed that out. That is how I programmed my 1095, 1098 & TRX2 with EZ-Scan since they don't have Stationary & Roam. On my 197/1065(s)/etc I don't remember if it was PSRedit or Win500 that I used (then cloned them all from it). Which one of the two do you rec as best for making each site a system, or did you use Arc?

 

[tvengr]

Thanks for pointed that out. That is how I programmed my 1095, 1098 & TRX2 with EZ-Scan since they don't have Stationary & Roam. On my 197/1065(s)/etc I don't remember if it was PSRedit or Win500 that I used (then cloned them all from it). Which one of the two do you rec as best for making each site a system, or did you use Arc?

I am more familiar with using the ARC software. I use ARC500 Basic, but also have PSREdit500 and Win500. I haven't tried duplicating systems with the other two.

 

[N5SRG]

You can try swapping antennas. Since other systems are working, it would seem to indicate that it is not an antenna problem. Does NOAA weather work OK? If the firmware reloading doesn't correct the problem, try cloning the 1040 to the 1065 after the update. Make sure you do the Clone Send on the 1040. If the scanner still fails to function, do the EEPROM memory test. Turn the scanner off. Turn the scanner back on. At the welcome screen, press 0 and then 5. The EEPROM test will erase the scanner memory. You will need to clone the 1040 to the 1065 again, even if the EEPROM shows an error. Some have made a miraculous recovery after the EEPROM test. If the scanner still fails to work, it will be time for a trip to Whistler.

Reloaded firmware in both 1065's seemed a little better. Will try eeprom test later. Just seemed strange yesterday while in Beaumont after cloning 1040 to mobile 1065 it still wouldn't get Beaumont, even as I drove by tower site.