796D and STARS

[Webodisk]

I upgraded to newest firmware from uniden, just realized I had been monitoring stars in the search mode not scan mode. Radio tracks fine in search mode perfect voice and follows the channels. Scan mode same problem everyone else has no audio but tracks for about a second then resumes scanning. Wonder why ?

Mike

 

[fmon]

Mike,

You do have ID's programmed...right?

Edit: My CC's are gone again. Guess they are only running on bankers hours.

 

[Webodisk]

Sure do, even in Id search mode no luck, but search works fine

Mike

 

[fmon]

Do you have a CC now? I don't.

 

[Webodisk]

Nope they went down about 4pm today after doing the grid testing

 

[Roxie2401]

Mike, what base/offset configuration did you finally decide on? Were you going to try the Montana system or are you using your original settings, where the offset was 380 for all of them.

I have the BC296, which I thought was the HH version of the 796. Should I be able to program it for this system?

 

[N4FTN]

After reading the Montana comments and doing some searching, I tried the Montana config with respect to the Base, Offset and Channel settings and was able to see more information than previously on the cc, but my 796D is still not stopping on active audio traffic properly as it scans.

Looking through the Alaska information this morning regarding their statewide 150 MHz trunked system I ran across the entry below in the site notes. Do you think this has any relevance to the questions we're dealing with?????
_______________________________________________________
News Update Posted on 2005-01-15 08:02:31

This is now known and confirmed:

The Tables values are only needed because of a bug in the GRE/Radio Shack Pro-96 scanner that treats VHF/UHF systems like the old 3600 analog ones. No Tables (or a default one) should be set or needed on 9600 systems, all the information needed to track the system is included in the control channel data stream. The Uniden BC296D has been upgraded to work without any Tables set like it's supposed to be. We can only hope that future versions of GRE scanners fix this bug. (Unknown if the latest CPU V1.3 upgrade to the Pro-96 has fixed this)
________________________________________________________

What do we think??????

 

[Stick0413]

Well I do know that even with CPU Version 1.3 on the Pro-96 you still have to put in the tables.

 

[Roxie2401]

Do we know what version they are referring to on the BC296D "being upgraded to work without any Tables"........ Is there a newer firmware upgrade? I didn't think there would be a new firmware until the "rebanding" release.


This is now known and confirmed:

The Tables values are only needed because of a bug in the GRE/Radio Shack Pro-96 scanner that treats VHF/UHF systems like the old 3600 analog ones. No Tables (or a default one) should be set or needed on 9600 systems, all the information needed to track the system is included in the control channel data stream. The Uniden BC296D has been upgraded to work without any Tables set like it's supposed to be. We can only hope that future versions of GRE scanners fix this bug. (Unknown if the latest CPU V1.3 upgrade to the Pro-96 has fixed this)
________________________________________________________

 

[N4FTN]

Mike, what base/offset configuration did you finally decide on? Were you going to try the Montana system or are you using your original settings, where the offset was 380 for all of them.

I have the BC296, which I thought was the HH version of the 796. Should I be able to program it for this system?

What's the best answer to the above question? Base/offset config?? Reading back through several relevant threads, for the 796D there appear to be at least several viable responses:

The one Mike quoted originally... 151.0050; 154.0050; 158.0050 / 7.5 / 380 for all

Or.... 151.0025; 154.0050; 158.0025 / 7.5 / 380 for all

Or.... 136.000 / 12.5 / 380

Or.... It doesn't matter because there is sufficient data in the cc stream for the scanner to figure it out?

Wonder which is the best, right answer?

Or.... Maybe the 796D is just unable to follow the latest evolution of the system??

Really scratching my head???

 

[Webodisk]

Me too I have removed all channels but CC and removed all the tables, and done combos for each NO LUCK, BUT if you use the service search mode and setup a search range between 151 and 153 and hold on the CC it tracks perfectly ! But scanning no luck

Pro 96 13. ver still needs the tables


Mike

 

[N4FTN]

Mike,

OK.... Will give that a try this week and see how it goes. Guess I may have to make a purchase if no other answers reveal themselves.....

 

[gcgrotz]

I haven't really looked there so I don't really know---have you guys posted some of this in the RS Forum? Maybe someone there has some answers one way or the other.

 

[RagnarD]

Hi Folks,

The step size is 2.5 and not 12.5. I had a hard time convincing folks of this early on but try to change the step size to 2.5 khz.

Try this; a base frequency of 136 a step size of 2.5 and a base of 8192

That is what works for the GRE scanners.

If you can do multi tables use

base step offset
136 2.5 8192
146 2.5 12288
156 2.5 16384

Hope this helps

73
de
chris
kq4z

 

[fmon]

I don't think any of those settings will work with the 796. Ie, 136 is lowest base setting, 7.5 is lowest step and 380-759 is the offset range. However, Uniden has two down-loadable upgrades for the 796, one is for the digital card and the other is for firmware. I'm not familiar with either cause I have a 785 and neither of these apply.

Having said that...the two owners manual differ only in one area for setting tables.
In the menu for setting UHF/VHF Motorola trunking sections:
785D=Rotate VFO to 5: TYPE 2 VHF
796D=Rotate VFO to 5: TYPE 2/P25

ARC250 software programs all 4 scanners in this series, 250D/785D/296D and 796D. The software has no distinction for different table settings on any of the 4 scanners.

Using the MENU for setting the scanner requires at least one set of tables to be entered when TYPE2 VHF (or P25) is selected, and I'm beginning to think one can fool the scanner by setting 136.0000/7.5/380 in all three tables. And, I think the 796 user must have the firmware upgrade via the Uniden Download page, and maybe the digital card upgrade also.

 

[russellfd]

I have a BC796d sacnner can someone tell me how tp put tables so i can hear fort lee and norffolk thanks russell

 

[Webodisk]

no tables needed for norfolk check the database under fort lee fo info
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=654

Mike

 

[fmon]

Motorola Type II Systems
Program the frequencies as follows: assuming bank 1
1. press MENU
2. press 2
3. press 2
4. press VFO or E
5. press 1
6. press 1
*7. press . 4=UHF *
8. press 2
9. press VFO or E
10. press 1
11. using numbered and decimal keys enter frequency
12. press VFO or E
13. press MENU three times
14. rotate VFO to next channel (C 002 L/O should appear at top)
15. repeat steps 9 through 14 until all are entered (the new top should be C 003...)
16. press scan after last E
*After pressing 4 UHF in step 7 above, skip steps 8 through 10 and use steps
(a through l) below to enter data for VHF or UHF (these setting would be ignored with P25 9600b systems)
a. press VFO or E
b. enter base frequency
c. press VFO or E
d. enter space setting
e. press VFO or E
f. enter offset channel
g. press VFO or E
h. repeat steps (a through g) for additional settings for UHF or VHF
i. press MENU three times
j. press 2
k. press VFO or E
l. return to step 11 above for entering frequencies.

 

[fmon]

no tables needed for norfolk check the database under fort lee fo info
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=654

Mike

I think he ment Norfolk Naval Base not the city system.

 

[Webodisk]

I saw that after I hit send and read the other post he had OOOPS !

Mike