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Has anyone ever actually used this to program a key into the pager, if so is it pretty simple to do. Also if u have done it is there any delay in the pager landing on the encrypted TG and the amount of time it takes the pager to apply the key. I heard that once u program a key in the pager attempts to apply it to every TG it lands on.
Any help is appreciated


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I haven’t had any problems with it. Can’t even tell.


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Ok that’s good, now did u program the key yourself or someone else did it, I’m asking because the key I was told is only like 4 digits but the program wants a 64 digit key


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Ok that’s good, now did u program the key yourself or someone else did it, I’m asking because the key I was told is only like 4 digits but the program wants a 64 digit key


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Yea did it myself. 64 digits


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Could you guys please elaborate on what software you are using and does it automatically find an encryption key? Or do you have to know what it is?


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Could you guys please elaborate on what software you are using and does it automatically find an encryption key? Or do you have to know what it is?


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No idea on the software, but you WILL need to know the key value in order to be able to load it into the radio. The software will NOT determine an unknown key.


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No idea on the software, but you WILL need to know the key value in order to be able to load it into the radio. The software will NOT determine an unknown key.


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Unication’s encryption utility. Download from them. And yes you will need to know what it is


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A 64 bit encryption key will require more than 4 characters.


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So it requires more than 4 characters but does not have to be 64 characters?
Has anyone seen or know of any videos of someone actually using this to program a pager, the program seems very rough to figure out


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They would not sell them long before MOTOROLA LAWYERS would show up with a cease and desist order.
Motorola has nothing to do with it. Encryption is not manufacturer-specific; illegally decrypting a radio system is a violation of State and/or Federal law, so it would be prosecuted by the affected county/state or the Feds. . . if they find out about it.
 

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The included link might answer some questions about how Unication loads keys to their products. While this link relates to the U/P series radios, there's a good chance they port the same process to other devices like the G series, rather than duplicate development. Note the utility generates a key based on a 12-32 character seed string, but never displays the actual key generated. That likely is done to prevent "handing out" the key to unauthorized users and may also mean the generated key itself is encrypted for storage on the local computer.
U3 encryption utility
For those interested in key generation theory, search for a description of AES encryption (128, 192, and 256 bit key generation). Here's one article.
 

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Motorola has nothing to do with it. Encryption is not manufacturer-specific; illegally decrypting a radio system is a violation of State and/or Federal law, so it would be prosecuted by the affected county/state or the Feds. . . if they find out about it.
When a vendor stated he was working on automatic detection of DMR encryption a month later Motorola shut him down and he went missing from here.
 

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When a vendor stated he was working on automatic detection of DMR encryption a month later Motorola shut him down and he went missing from here.
DMR encryption or MOTOtrbo encryption? MOTOtrbo is proprietary to Motorola and backwards engineering would most definitely be an infringement on their intellectual property. AES is a standard and Motorola does not own it.
 
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