GMRS exemption from narrowband orders

[RevGary]

Just some tech info:

According to my contact at the FCC Gettysburg Office, the January 01, 2013, FCC order for narrowbanding from 20K0F3E down to 11K0F3E does NOT include GMRS.

This is because GMRS falls under 47CFR95 regulations, not 47CFR90 where almost all of the rebanding is taking place.

 

[SkipSanders]

However, a completely seperate full rewrite of ALL the Part 95 rules is just now being proposed by the FCC, which DOES include narrowbanding of all GMRS, along with de-licensing, lower power (possibly), potentially no repeaters, potentially no type acceptance for any radio with OTHER than part 95 type acceptance (they don't like dual-service radios other than FRS/GMRS).

See:

http://forums.radioreference.com/gmrs/182687-part-95-nprm.html

 

[ecps92]

That is correct. Narrowbanding does not apply to Amateur, GMRS and Certain PAGING Only Frequencies

Just some tech info:

According to my contact at the FCC Gettysburg Office, the January 01, 2013, FCC order for narrowbanding from 20K0F3E down to 11K0F3E does NOT include GMRS.

This is because GMRS falls under 47CFR95 regulations, not 47CFR90 where almost all of the rebanding is taking place.

 

[n5ims]

Just some tech info:

According to my contact at the FCC Gettysburg Office, the January 01, 2013, FCC order for narrowbanding from 20K0F3E down to 11K0F3E does NOT include GMRS.

This is because GMRS falls under 47CFR95 regulations, not 47CFR90 where almost all of the rebanding is taking place.

The narrowband process is totally seperate from the rebanding process for part 90 radios. Rebanding is the band allocation shuffle to solve the Nextel interference issue on the 800 MHz band.

GMRS frequencies, being on the UHF band, are not affected by the rebanding process.

 

[RevGary]

However, a completely seperate full rewrite of ALL the Part 95 rules is just now being proposed by the FCC, which DOES include narrowbanding of all GMRS, along with de-licensing, lower power (possibly), potentially no repeaters, potentially no type acceptance for any radio with OTHER than part 95 type acceptance (they don't like dual-service radios other than FRS/GMRS).

See:

http://forums.radioreference.com/gmrs/182687-part-95-nprm.html

Skip - Thanks for that new data. It is curious that the date of release on the Docket listed in your URL was June 01, 2010 and the information that I received from the person in Gettysburg on JUNE 07 did not include even a mention of the proposed Part 95 Rules changes. But now that I think about it, perhaps the Gettysburg office was not in the full information loop as yet.

 

[SkipSanders]

Gettysburg answered your question correctly... the part 90 narrowbanding has, and will have, no effect on GMRS. Entirely seperate services and rules.

Not that government agencies are well known for knowing what other parts of the agency are up to...

 

[bill4long]

GMRS and FRS are already "narrow band" (2.5khz deviation) so it wouldn't matter anyway.

 

[mmckenna]

FRS is 2.5 KHz deviation, aka Narrow Band.
GMRS is allowed to use either 5 KHz or 2.5KHz deviation.

Most consumer grade FRS/GMRS hybrid radios will only do the 2.5KHz deviation. Since most serious GMRS users are using commercial equipment, it's common to find them using 5KHz.

Either one is perfectly legal on GMRS as the rules stand now.

 

[bill4long]

FRS is 2.5 KHz deviation, aka Narrow Band.
GMRS is allowed to use either 5 KHz or 2.5KHz deviation.

Most consumer grade FRS/GMRS hybrid radios will only do the 2.5KHz deviation. Since most serious GMRS users are using commercial equipment, it's common to find them using 5KHz.

Either one is perfectly legal on GMRS as the rules stand now.

Yes, you are quite right.