Muxlow
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FBI better jump on ebay and start kicking in doors and taking them radios and sending the resellers to jail and so motorola can sleep safe and sound knowing no hytera radios were sold today
good lord what a **** show this is
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HYTERA TO STOP ALL TWO WAY RADIOS SALES EFFECTIVE 04-07-2024
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good lord what a **** show this is
the crazy part is also "hey you stole Motorola IP for DMR so dont sell anything including analog radios"
I guess they also stole analog FM from them too?? Overreach for sure.
I guess they also stole analog FM from them too?? Overreach for sure.
Muxlow
Super Secret
i think moto is trying to drain hyteras funds so they have to sell and moto can scoop up their company so they wont have to try and get IP transit, Single Frequency Repeat and Pseudo Trunking
Wonder why moto dont go after hytera for using a SMA connector saying OH NO! we use that style connector so thats ours too.
Interesting part of it all is why is the US court pushing so hard for hytera to stop their case in china? Are they scared that the china court will rule saying nope your h series products dont infringe on motorolas crap so your all good there and dont have to pay royalties
just reminds me of all them cop videos you see. Sir step out of the car. Ummm no. Ok we will forcibly remove you and charge you for not listening to us
M must have some big concern what the china court will find or rule and mess up their case
I just went on ebay and clicked buy it now for a BD502i. Guess thats a resale. That seller is such a criminal and should be in prison! tisk tisk seller for not following the high order of the circus court
Wonder why moto dont go after hytera for using a SMA connector saying OH NO! we use that style connector so thats ours too.
Interesting part of it all is why is the US court pushing so hard for hytera to stop their case in china? Are they scared that the china court will rule saying nope your h series products dont infringe on motorolas crap so your all good there and dont have to pay royalties
just reminds me of all them cop videos you see. Sir step out of the car. Ummm no. Ok we will forcibly remove you and charge you for not listening to us
M must have some big concern what the china court will find or rule and mess up their case
I just went on ebay and clicked buy it now for a BD502i. Guess thats a resale. That seller is such a criminal and should be in prison! tisk tisk seller for not following the high order of the circus court
Here is my 2 cents:
The US court doesn't have worldwide-power but have power in the USA. So they issue world-wide ban order and if Hytera doesn't comply (worldwide!), then they can continue raising the fines in the USA or completely ban Hytera in the USA indefinitely. That's a threat that I guess Hytera faces and they have a choice to comply worldwide or not. If they don't, they face more problems in the USA and they have to decide which way to go.
Maybe in the near future they will sue this court for their illegal order, which is now causing them financial harm, and mayeb they will win that case. But also, maybe not. And maybe they are tired of all the troubles they have to go through with the USA court that even if the order is not legal, they comply rather than complain.
The US court doesn't have worldwide-power but have power in the USA. So they issue world-wide ban order and if Hytera doesn't comply (worldwide!), then they can continue raising the fines in the USA or completely ban Hytera in the USA indefinitely. That's a threat that I guess Hytera faces and they have a choice to comply worldwide or not. If they don't, they face more problems in the USA and they have to decide which way to go.
Maybe in the near future they will sue this court for their illegal order, which is now causing them financial harm, and mayeb they will win that case. But also, maybe not. And maybe they are tired of all the troubles they have to go through with the USA court that even if the order is not legal, they comply rather than complain.
Muxlow
Super Secret
See what happens right!
Name change for hytera or just dont sell in the usa. Im sure they can survive without sales in the states
Name change for hytera or just dont sell in the usa. Im sure they can survive without sales in the states
I'm pretty sure this has to do with Hytera stealing Motorola's IP and even admitting to and then refusing and/or stalling to pay any of the judgement against them. Plus they still have the criminal case against them.
C'mon now, it's always MSI's fault even when it's not! They're literally the worst corporation in the entire universe and obviously they somehow orchestrated this entire theft of IP from the start just to put Hytera out of business!!1!!!! 😵
OMG! Genius plan. Have those 7 engineers "quit" Motorola and plant them in Hytera, force Hytera to use the "stolen" IP and then "accidently" discover they are using it all so they can take down a company that was no threat to them...until they started using the stolen IP.
I'm guessing this was done to get their attention. As Dale Earnhardt said "I just wanted to rattle his cage a bit".
And I believe they also left "Copyright Motorola" (or however it was phrased) in the firmware. Just like Uniden did when it copied LTR FW from EF Johnson back in the day.
paulears
Member
It will make a great episode of Judge Judy - I can even imagine it in my head.
I didn't realize there were so many international business lawyers on RR...
mmckenna
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paulears
Member
Ah - but the point really is that we're not lawyers, and so surprised with the fact that this is even possible? In truth, being a Brit - I object to the US preventing me from making buying decisions. After all, when the US banned wide band radios, all us non-US folk smiled because we could buy them in Europe. We would have been pretty furious if the US ban extended to us too. I've always assumed countries only had powers in their own. Clearly, my law knowledge is sadly wrong. I've looked up some of our current laws, and clearly, keeping the Hytera thing in mind, we could extend these to the US
It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of a cow
The Licensing Act 1872 forbids people from being drunk while in charge on any highway or other public place of any carriage, horse, cattle, or steam engine. Sensibly, the act also prohibits people from being drunk when in possession of any loaded fire-arms.
Handling a salmon in suspicious circumstances
This may sound like it is an ancient and forgotten archaic law, but it is actually a fairly recent law under the Salmon Act 1986. The Salmon Act (Scotland) 1862 makes it illegal to fish for salmon and sea trout on a Sunday in Scotland.
(Does the next one apply to Congress?)
It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament wearing armour
The 1313 act, “A Statute forbidding Bearing of Armour” states: <i>that every Man shall come without all Force and Armour, well and peaceably, to the Honour of Us, and the Peace of Us and our Realm.</i> The Act was written in Anglo-Norman during the reign of Edward II and is still in force today, some 705 years later.
No Fun and Games At All
The Metropolitan Police Act 1839 prohibits a long list of nuisance behaviours that would incur fines, including:
"Every person who shall wilfully and wantonly disturb any inhabitant by pulling or ringing any door-bell or knocking at any door without lawful excuse, or who shall wilfully and unlawfully extinguish the light of any lamp.
"Every person who shall fly any kite or play at any game to the annoyance of the inhabitants or passengers, or who shall make or use any slide upon ice or snow in any street or other thoroughfare, to the common danger of the passengers.
"Every person who shall turn loose any horse or cattle, or suffer to be at large any unmuzzled ferocious dog, or set on or urge any dog or other animal to attack, worry, or put in fear any person, horse, or other animal.
"Every person who shall, to the annoyance of the inhabitants or passengers expose for show or sale (except in a market lawfully appointed for that purpose) or feed or fodder any horse or other animal, or show any caravan containing any animal or any other show or public entertainment, or shoe, bleed; or farry any horse or animal (except in cases of accident), or clean, dress, exercise, train, or break any horse or animal, or clean, make, or repair any part of any cart or carriage, except in cases of accident where repair on the spot is necessary.
"Every person who shall roll or carry any cask, tub, hoop, or wheel, or any ladder, plank, pole, showboard, or placard, upon any footway, except for the purpose of loading or unloading any cart or carriage, or of crossing the footway.
"Every person who in any thoroughfare shall burn, dress, or cleanse any cork, or hoop, cleanse, fire, wash, or scald any cask or tub, or hew, saw, bore, or cut any timber or stone, or slack, sift, or screen any lime."
Just be thankful you are not a Scot, visiting Carlisle
If you are Scottish, it’s best to avoid visiting Carlisle
In Carlisle, any Scot found wandering around may be whipped or jailed. This probably dates back to 1157, when King Malcolm IV of Scotland surrendered his lands granted to the Scots in 1136 following the Scots invasion of Cumbria led by King David I. In the period directly after this, many Cumbrian castles were fortified as a precaution, so it seems likely that this law is linked to the 12th century battles.
It is an offence to be drunk and in charge of a cow
The Licensing Act 1872 forbids people from being drunk while in charge on any highway or other public place of any carriage, horse, cattle, or steam engine. Sensibly, the act also prohibits people from being drunk when in possession of any loaded fire-arms.
Handling a salmon in suspicious circumstances
This may sound like it is an ancient and forgotten archaic law, but it is actually a fairly recent law under the Salmon Act 1986. The Salmon Act (Scotland) 1862 makes it illegal to fish for salmon and sea trout on a Sunday in Scotland.
(Does the next one apply to Congress?)
It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament wearing armour
The 1313 act, “A Statute forbidding Bearing of Armour” states: <i>that every Man shall come without all Force and Armour, well and peaceably, to the Honour of Us, and the Peace of Us and our Realm.</i> The Act was written in Anglo-Norman during the reign of Edward II and is still in force today, some 705 years later.
No Fun and Games At All
The Metropolitan Police Act 1839 prohibits a long list of nuisance behaviours that would incur fines, including:
"Every person who shall wilfully and wantonly disturb any inhabitant by pulling or ringing any door-bell or knocking at any door without lawful excuse, or who shall wilfully and unlawfully extinguish the light of any lamp.
"Every person who shall fly any kite or play at any game to the annoyance of the inhabitants or passengers, or who shall make or use any slide upon ice or snow in any street or other thoroughfare, to the common danger of the passengers.
"Every person who shall turn loose any horse or cattle, or suffer to be at large any unmuzzled ferocious dog, or set on or urge any dog or other animal to attack, worry, or put in fear any person, horse, or other animal.
"Every person who shall, to the annoyance of the inhabitants or passengers expose for show or sale (except in a market lawfully appointed for that purpose) or feed or fodder any horse or other animal, or show any caravan containing any animal or any other show or public entertainment, or shoe, bleed; or farry any horse or animal (except in cases of accident), or clean, dress, exercise, train, or break any horse or animal, or clean, make, or repair any part of any cart or carriage, except in cases of accident where repair on the spot is necessary.
"Every person who shall roll or carry any cask, tub, hoop, or wheel, or any ladder, plank, pole, showboard, or placard, upon any footway, except for the purpose of loading or unloading any cart or carriage, or of crossing the footway.
"Every person who in any thoroughfare shall burn, dress, or cleanse any cork, or hoop, cleanse, fire, wash, or scald any cask or tub, or hew, saw, bore, or cut any timber or stone, or slack, sift, or screen any lime."
Just be thankful you are not a Scot, visiting Carlisle
If you are Scottish, it’s best to avoid visiting Carlisle
In Carlisle, any Scot found wandering around may be whipped or jailed. This probably dates back to 1157, when King Malcolm IV of Scotland surrendered his lands granted to the Scots in 1136 following the Scots invasion of Cumbria led by King David I. In the period directly after this, many Cumbrian castles were fortified as a precaution, so it seems likely that this law is linked to the 12th century battles.
Adv-Radio
Member
The order was lifted at 12pm on 4/9.
According to the article linked below, as of 4/10, the judge says order is still in place...
"An injunction halting the global sale of Hytera Communications two-way-radio technology remained in effect on Wednesday, when a U.S. federal district-court judge ruled that the contempt sanctions should be maintained until a Chinese court provides written assurance about the outcome of key lawsuit that Hytera has withdrawn in China.
US District Court Judge Martha Pacold reiterated her decision during a two-hour status hearing—conducted by teleconference—Wednesday with lawyers representing Hytera Communications and Motorola Solutions. Pacold indicated that she remains uncertain whether a three-judge panel in the Shenzhen court in China might issue a written order that could undermine her court’s jurisdiction on the subject of whether the sales of Hytera H-Series DMR products are subject to royalties that must be paid to Motorola Solutions...."
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"An injunction halting the global sale of Hytera Communications two-way-radio technology remained in effect on Wednesday, when a U.S. federal district-court judge ruled that the contempt sanctions should be maintained until a Chinese court provides written assurance about the outcome of key lawsuit that Hytera has withdrawn in China.
US District Court Judge Martha Pacold reiterated her decision during a two-hour status hearing—conducted by teleconference—Wednesday with lawyers representing Hytera Communications and Motorola Solutions. Pacold indicated that she remains uncertain whether a three-judge panel in the Shenzhen court in China might issue a written order that could undermine her court’s jurisdiction on the subject of whether the sales of Hytera H-Series DMR products are subject to royalties that must be paid to Motorola Solutions...."
Hytera Global Sales Of Two-Way-Radio Products Still Blocked, Judge Awaits Clarity From China Court
<!-- wp:paragraph --> By Donny Jackson <!-- /wp:paragraph --> <!-- wp:paragraph --> An injunction halting the global sale of Hytera Communications two-way-radio technology remained in effect on Wednesday, when a
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speedway_navigator
Member
In American it's against the law to spell armor your way...
I'm a direct descendant of William the Conqueror, am I exempt?
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