Illegal cb and amplifier enforcement action in Illinois

[woody_46]

I actually wish the FCC would enforce it better. I live across the river from Detroit, and scan the CB bands once in a while. I hear the same people yelling on the same channels all day long on their overpowered, overmodulated radios all day long....every day. They splatter for about 25kc on either side of their channel they occupy. It can't be much fun for other people running legal power. Those channels are unusable for everybody else.

 

[dwhite1762]

To tell the Truth the FCC does not seem to care to much with Amp's.... This Guy has been around for years and is still selling and making CB Amps ..

davemade amps

He makes some of the Biggest Mobile amps out there ... If you are a Keyer you scream .... " Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! " .....

His Case's for the Box's and his Fight stick's are made in NJ at D-N Machine Company in Gloucester City . I use to work there and seen him many times..

 

[KE7IZL]

What is a CB Keydown contest? Is it completely illegal? Is it something that can be illegal when done improperly, and mostly people do tend to do it improperly? Please explain.

 

[dwhite1762]

It is Illegal .... They use up to and over 5K amps and see who can Key over the other person and some are for Distance ... Like from New Jersey to Florida or further ...This is all done on Cb channel or out of band channels on moded 2950's or Cobra CB radios...

 

[woody_46]

To tell the Truth the FCC does not seem to care to much with Amp's.... This Guy has been around for years and is still selling and making CB Amps ..

davemade amps

He makes some of the Biggest Mobile amps out there ... If you are a Keyer you scream .... " Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! Dave Made !!!! " .....

His Case's for the Box's and his Fight stick's are made in NJ at D-N Machine Company in Gloucester City . I use to work there and seen him many times..

I think he is safe since he does not seem to advertise directly to the CB market. I took a quick look though. He can easily say it's designed for the Ham radio market.

 

[dwhite1762]

His product is NOT designed for Ham use ..... The nick name for his box's are Splatter monsters ..... They are not of the standard any Ham would buy them for there is very little Filtering and they are designed to work in a certain frequency area ... He has been a target in the past by the FCC but as of late the CB issue seems to come up if it interferes with Governmental agency's.

I bought one of his box's before and bench tested it and lets just say If you use it on 10m you might get a visit.

But that said for many years CB has used Amps it is the ones who abuse them that get the attention ...

 

[woody_46]

His product is NOT designed for Ham use ..... The nick name for his box's are Splatter monsters ..... They are not of the standard any Ham would buy them for there is very little Filtering and they are designed to work in a certain frequency area ... He has been a target in the past by the FCC but as of late the CB issue seems to come up if it interferes with Governmental agency's.

I bought one of his box's before and bench tested it and lets just say If you use it on 10m you might get a visit.

But that said for many years CB has used Amps it is the ones who abuse them that get the attention ...

Ah okay, thanks for that. Well if the FCC doesn't shut him down, then it's a free for all. I guess none of us can complain if he is allowed to stay in business. It sounds like his hardware does not meet FCC guidelines then.

 

[Scannerhead1983]

I don't even screw with CB's anymore, Used to be into them big when I was younger. Now they are just pointless. You get people that over power, over modulate and it's nothing but a bunch of garbage. Personally I don't think the FCC really cares about the CB band anymore. (im sure they still do in some ways) But still.... I'll stick with my FM band radios. Less BS, The FCC regulates the bands so you don't have much interferance. And I can communicate with an ease on what bands I need to use. I used to have a CB in my truck to keep up on updates on the highway and what the OSP was doing. Now I just tune it in on my marcs radio. I know where accidents are, and when I need to take an alternate route. CB's are over rated....

 

[SCPD]

Don't matter, his stuff isn't legal for ham use because it takes less than 50 watts drive and has a RF sensed T/R relay and it'll work out of the box above 24 MHz. There's no such thing as a legal factory built 10 meter amp. The FCC has already closed that loophole.

 

[SCPD]

For those of you that insist on operating out of band I have attached a list of frequencies from 25-30 MHz with their known uses. Modes of operation may be AM, FM, SSB or digital. Digital modes may just sound like noise on your radio. The Military makes use of digital modes a lot. All Federal and Military frequencies are classified so only those that have actually been monitored are listed. So maybe you'll at least know some frequencies to stay away from. This list was compiled from FCC records, Coast Guard publications and other sources.

 

[rescue161]

For those of you that insist on operating out of band I have attached a list of frequencies from 25-30 MHz with their known uses. Modes of operation may be AM, FM, SSB or digital. Digital modes may just sound like noise on your radio. The Military makes use of digital modes a lot. All Federal and Military frequencies are classified so only those that have actually been monitored are listed. So maybe you'll at least know some frequencies to stay away from. This list was compiled from FCC records, Coast Guard publications and other sources.

That must be an old list, because it still has CB channel 24 marked as "Disaster Response" and channel 27 as "Public Safety". It looks like the list is either old or that those frequencies were never updated when the FCC dropped the old 23 channel plan adopted the (new) 40 channel plan.

 

[SCPD]

Those frequencies are still licensed by Public Safety agencies. They must have been licensed before the 40 channel expansion but they have kept the licenses current so I am assuming that they are still in use. 27.235 is licensed to Amarillo, TX and 27.275 is licensed to Carbon County, PA. The data was extracted from the FCC database last night.

 

[rescue161]

That's funny. Why on Earth would they keep renewing a license that anybody and their brother has on their CB radios? I sure wouldn't.

 

[gewecke]

That's funny. Why on Earth would they keep renewing a license that anybody and their brother has on their CB radios? I sure wouldn't.

Probably because they ARE licensed to use that frequency and the cb'ers are NOT?
Who obviously does not belong there?


73,
n9zas

 

[rescue161]

Probably because they ARE licensed to use that frequency and the cb'ers are NOT?
Who obviously does not belong there?


73,
n9zas

You do not need a license for any of the 40 channels on a CB and nowhere in the rules does it state that CBers have secondary use of those two channels.

 

[gewecke]

You do not need a license for any of the 40 channels on a CB and nowhere in the rules does it state that CBers have secondary use of those two channels.

True, not within 26.965 to 27.405 mhz. but beyond that spectrum you DO need a license.

73,
n9zas

 

[rescue161]

True, not within 26.965 to 27.405 mhz. but beyond that spectrum you DO need a license.

73,
n9zas

Oh yes, I agree whole-heartedly, but their are two frequencies on that list (CB channels 24 [27.235 MHz] & 27 [27.275 MHz]) that are licenced by Public Safety, which seems very strange to me.

 

[SCPD]

I tried.... I really did. I just couldn't do it anymore. Reading this thread has given me a migraine. I'm trying to figure out why anyone is STILL arguing with stlouis50 about the legalities of using an amp on 11 meters. 11 meters is a cesspool of of slack jawed redneck inbreds that couldn't spell C.B. let alone understand the ramifications of illegal use of their equipment. Don't let him/her bait you into this silly argument... it seems that what he/she wants. I really don't believe that he/she haas the mental capacity to understand what you're trying to tell him/her. Let him/her continue with the delusion of using their illegal 10-4 box and let the chips fall where they may. Illegal users eventually get caught sooner or later. The horse is STILL dead BTW....

 

[reedeb]

The horse is STILL dead BTW....

Yup!! sure is

 

[gewecke]

Oh yes, I agree whole-heartedly, but their are two frequencies on that list (CB channels 24 [27.235 MHz] & 27 [27.275 MHz]) that are licenced by Public Safety, which seems very strange to me.

It is odd, but there are stranger things about the ULS that make little sense much less the public safety spectrum.


73,
n9zas