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Kenwood Tk-8160H Help!!!

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Hey guys, I just got a Kenwood TK-8160(H) Mobile Radios for install in my vehicle. I work for Emergency Mgt. as a Volunteer Storm spotter I was told These radios have FleetSync Feature in them and that they would display our UNIT ID on the displays? The base radio in our Emergency Ops Center is a Kenwood TK-8160(H) as well. I'm new to the agency and because were volunteer we have to provide our own communications equip. All the other volunteers have their UNIT ID displayed when they key up their radios and the short MDC-1200 tone is heard. I ordered these from eBay and the person i ordered them from needs programming info in order to program. Before i send him the programming info i need to know what to tell him for the UNIT ID feature... my ID is 639. i have no idea about how this works. All i know is it sends out a MDC-1200 tone whenever you push the PTT and that displays the UNIT ID on the radios display. I would really appreicate the help!! Thanks!!
 

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Well MDC1200 is not supported by the x160 series mobiles. Fleetsync and MDC-1200 are two different and incompatible signaling methods.

Are you sure they are not using fleetsync? You need more than just your ID when programming a fleetsync system. Check with your system admin.
 

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well all i know is the EOC uses Kenwood Tk-8180's and they have the id feature built into them. and the MDC-1200 sound goes off when the mic is keyed. some of the guys have motorolas and some have kenwood's
 

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In your first post you said the EOC was using a 8160 like your self. In your second pot you state 8180.

If they are using the 8180 the radio does support MDC-1200. Your 8160 is fleetsync only.
 

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If they are using the 8180 the radio does support MDC-1200. Your 8160 is fleetsync only.

Not sure, but I think the 8180 depends on the firmware ( could be wrong ). As for the 8160 you can accomplish having MDC by adding an ANI option board ( such as a CIM-1000K-20 or CIM-1200K ) from Cimarron Technologies. Thiese modules also apply to the 8180 and other Kenwood models.
 

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Not sure, but I think the 8180 depends on the firmware ( could be wrong ). As for the 8160 you can accomplish having MDC by adding an ANI option board ( such as a CIM-1000K-20 or CIM-1200K ) from Cimarron Technologies. Thiese modules also apply to the 8180 and other Kenwood models.

Correct it does depend on Firmware version.
 

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Not sure, but I think the 8180 depends on the firmware ( could be wrong ). As for the 8160 you can accomplish having MDC by adding an ANI option board ( such as a CIM-1000K-20 or CIM-1200K ) from Cimarron Technologies. Thiese modules also apply to the 8180 and other Kenwood models.

Unfortunately the Cimarron board gives you encode abilities. Decode is limited to an audio gate. To decode the IDs, you will have to have a radio that will do MDC-1200 by itself such as the TK-8180 with the latest firmware that supports this. The TK-8160 is a fleetsync only radio.

No Motorola radio model can do fleetsync, so if you say you have a mix you are using MDC-1200.
 
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Unfortunately the Cimarron board gives you encode abilities. Decode is limited to an audio gate.

Cimarron also makes the CIM-2200 which does both encode and decode. Not sure if it works with the 8160, what do you think?
 

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Well, I.m off ond on with Cimarron products. I am familiar with the stand-alone consoles that will decode IDs and display them on their led displays. These will also output serial data to interface with external equipment. Our local LE uses this for man-down emerg signals to CAD. However my experience with the add-on boards to radios is an audio only function. Yes they will encode an ID (MDC-1200, Fleetsync, DTMF, or whatever) and decode an individual ID for selective call, but to have have a caller ID display as the OP stated, you really need a radio that is capable of doing this.
 

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Another Question

Hey guys i understand what your saying with the fleetsync and the mdc as differenct types of id systems. I was mistaken the eoc uses 8180's instead of 60's. they said to not worry about the unit id because im volunteer.

Heres another question i have. I work for a Small TV station and we have A uhf system. i was telling some of the guys about the fleetsync system and how the unit id works. we have TK-8160's in our studio and in our mobile broadcast truck as well as our reporter vehicles, and other vehicles our station uses for local communications around our viewing area. As well now the 8160's i just purchased for my self.

Could someone tell me how to set up the unit id feature on our 8160's? we would have 6 tk-8160's to program with different unit id's, and another question, we have 10 tk-360 handhelds for use around our studio and a couple of our cameramen have tk-840's in their vehicles they do not have the fleetsync feature, so all the handheld radios and the 840's would hear is the tone at the beginning when any of the 8160's with unit id transmit? (just like on a scanner, all we hear is the mdc-1200 or fleetsync tone and then the user starts txing correct?)

Also, we have 2 channels we use for our communications with the station, and then i would have the third channel as my Emergency Mgt frequency, is there a way to program the radio where only certain channels would transmit the unit id and fleetsync tone? again i apoligise for my ignorance on this im new to the whole fleetsync, mdc-1200, unit id stuff.

i'm wanting to get this system set up with the unit id feature pretty soon and i have a guy who will program these radios up for us i just need to know what to tell him about the fleetsync unit id feature considering we have the capable radios we just dont have anything set up currently.

thanks again.
 
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