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New to this, How do I program TK-3360?

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I have some experience with CHIRP, but not much else. How do I program a Kenwood TK-3360? I am thinking of getting a few of these for vehicles, but I don't know what software/interface to use.

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You'll need Kenwood programming software KPG-128. Latest version is V1.31. You'll also need the KPG-22U programming cable to connect your PC to your radio. Both are available from a Kenwood dealer. There are a few vendors online.

You'll also need a license to use these, depending on what country you live in. If you are in the United States, there are no "license free" services in the range these radios cover. You'll either need an amateur radio license for each and every user, or a valid business/LMR license.

There are two variations of the TK-3360, so you need to know which one you need. The model 1 covers 450MHz to 520MHz. The model 2 covers 400MHz to 470MHz. If you are going to use these on the amateur radio bands, you'll need the model 2.

GMRS would be a good option if you reside in the USA, however -technically- these radios are not legal to use on that service as they do not have the FCC Part 95 certification. The can be programmed to work there, but if you want to follow the letter of the law, it would be a violation of the FCC rules.

Make sure you know what you are buying and you know what model you need.
 
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Thanks for the info on the programming cable.

We have an FCC Business license for four frequencies, so those are the four that I would want programmed into the radio. I would prefer to do it myself, so we don't need to rely on a vendor to make changes or add new units, etc…

Is that the same software/cable I would use for a KT-8302U, also?

Am I correct, in that the TK-3360 and the KT-8302U are the most basic, but high-powered, handheld and mobile units that Kenwood offers?

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No, it's not the same cable. The TK-8302 is programmed via the RJ-45 microphone jack on the front of the radio. You'll need a KPG-46UM cable. That's a USB to RJ-45 cable specific to several of the mobiles, including the TK-7302 VHF and TK-8302 UHF..
You'll also need the KPG-124 programming software for the mobile.

Correct, the TK-3360 and the TK-8302 are the most basic portable/mobiles currently in production. The 8302H does 45 watts on UHF between 450MHz and 490MHz. If you are running frequencies above 490, the power starts to roll off a bit.

If you have just the 4 frequencies, then this would be a pretty good setup.
 
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Thank You. I'm the IT manager for this company, so I'm been thrown into this, so to speak.

When you purchase these radios from a vendor, are they pre-programmed or can I just get them programmed by that vendor? Have any online vendor recommendations?

Maybe this should go to another thread, but I also need weatherproof, base-station antennas and power supplies for the 8302H. our frequencies are between those two.
 
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One more question on these. Do these have the capability for the "voice scrambling" feature? Is that even worth it? Does it work?
 

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The radios come from the factory blank, so they'll need to be programmed. The dealer should be able to program them for you. If you already have existing radios in use, you'll need to make 100% sure the new radios are programmed -exactly- the same as the old ones, or they may not be able to talk to each other.

If you are only purchasing a few radios, it will likely be cheaper to have the dealer program them. A good shop will be able to help you make good decisions about the many, many programmable functions these radios have. There is a lot more to it than just programming in the frequencies.

I don't have any online vendor recommendations, I've always purchased via local shops.

As for the power supply, you'll need a 15 amp 12 volt regulated power supply. Not difficult to find on the internet. Just make sure you get a good name brand. There are companies that produce power supplies that have a mount integrated for specific model radios, it makes life a bit easier, but isn't necessary.

As for base antennas, this is where a local shop can really help you out. The exact antenna you need depends on a number of variables, and having someone with specific knowledge can be valuable.
-The antenna will need to be specific to the frequencies you use.
-Deciding on the antenna gain is something that takes some skill and knowledge about the local topography. Picking a random antenna could result in reduced performance. Transmitter power out + your antenna gain - feed line losses all figure into something called Effective Radiated Power, and this is something that is limited by your FCC license.
-Antenna mounting is very important. The height of the antenna will directly affect your system performance. Low to the ground and coverage will be very limited, higher up will provide wider coverage area. Go to high up, and you may start interfering with other uses on the same frequencies outside your area, or picking up too much interference.
-Coaxial cable is -very- important. You need high quality cable, properly installed, and that's all dependent on how/where the antenna is mounted.
-Lightning protection needs to be considered, and is mandated by the National Electric Code, as is proper grounding.

While it will add to the overall cost, getting the system properly designed will greatly reduce frustration and issues down the road. This really is one of those places where investing a few hundred bucks in professional services now will save you thousands later.

Both the portable and mobile radios will support voice inversion scrambling. It's very basic and not terribly secure, but will provide some limited security from very casual eavesdropping. If you need something better than that, you'll have to change radio models.
 
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