VP8000 Wide band Available channels (informational note)

[kd4efm]

I did not see VHF Marine in the list, but I have asked, and I have programmed them, without any issues.

Available Wideband Channels
Even if "Wideband Disable" is checked for a radio (at Radio Information > Options > Feature Disable), the following frequencies are available for that radio:

VHF Amateur Band -> 144-148MHz
UHF Amateur Band -> 420-450MHz
SMURS Blue Dot 154.57 MHz
SMURS Green Dot 154.6 MHz
462.750 MHz
462.775 MHz
462.800 MHz
462.825 MHz
462.850 MHz
462.875 MHz
462.900 MHz
462.925 MHz
465.000 MHz
462.5625 MHz
462.5875 MHz
462.6125 MHz
462.6375 MHz
462.6625 MHz
462.6875 MHz
462.7125 MHz
462.5500 MHz
462.5750 MHz
462.6000 MHz
462.6250 MHz
462.6500 MHz
462.6750 MHz
462.7000 MHz
462.7250 MHz
467.5500 MHz
467.5750 MHz
467.6000 MHz
467.6250 MHz
467.6500 MHz
467.6750 MHz
467.7000 MHz
467.7250 MHz
470-520 MHz

Note:
Any frequency is allowed to receive wideband as long as transmit is disabled, regardless of whether that frequency is wideband exempt.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

Did you verify 800 MHz function for wideband?

 

[kd4efm]

Did you verify 800 MHz function for wideband?

Which portions? 800 is not narrow mandated. but yes, 8Call90 and 8Tac channels wide like normal.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

the NPSPAC interops are speced at 20kHz bandwidth with 4kHz of deviation. I believe thats what @Project25_MASTR was referring to.

I have seen radios from other vendors that only offer 12.5 for this split, or at best 12.5 and 25.

EDIT: I am also very happy with the wideband allowed channels above. That is a VERY well thought out list of exceptions and really makes needing a wideband key unnecessary.

 

[kd4efm]

Here is the menu

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Excellent engineering and well thought out.

 

[MTS2000des]

Makes me want a VP8000 that much more. Already impressed with the vastly improved AGC in F.W 8.4.x on my VP6430

 

[GTR8000]

For whatever it's worth, the APX8000 has the same exact frequencies (as well as marine Part 80 and the NOAA channels) carved out to allow wideband 4 or 5 kHz TX deviation even with Q507 - 12.5 kHz FCC Mandate in the flash. It'll even let you program the paging channel 157.450 in 5 kHz. Same goes for the rest of the APX lineup for whichever band(s) the radios are capable of, including the APX7000, and has been that way since R10 in 2013. I'm not sure why everyone is so blown away by the "awesome engineering and well thought out" concept of something that has been around for a full decade. 🤦‍♂️

 

[MTS2000des]

For whatever it's worth, the APX8000 has the same exact frequencies (as well as marine Part 80 and the NOAA channels) carved out to allow wideband 4 or 5 kHz TX deviation even with Q507 - 12.5 kHz FCC Mandate in the flash. It'll even let you program the paging channel 157.450 in 5 kHz. Same goes for the rest of the APX lineup for whichever band(s) the radios are capable of, including the APX7000, and has been that way since R10 in 2013. I'm not sure why everyone is so blown away by the "awesome engineering and well thought out" concept of something that has been around for a full decade. 🤦‍♂️

Let me know when an APX8000 (or any APX radio) can be ordered with both DMR tier 3 and P25 CAI. I'll be waiting.
Let me know when you can order a fully optioned APX8000 with all bands enabled, AES multi-key, P25 trunking and TDMA for under 6 grand.

The VP8000 does what an APX can't do and that is DMR and P25. I'd call that awesome engineering and well though out. MSI expects you to carry two radios like it's 1999.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

For whatever it's worth, the APX8000 has the same exact frequencies (as well as marine Part 80 and the NOAA channels) carved out to allow wideband 4 or 5 kHz TX deviation even with Q507 - 12.5 kHz FCC Mandate in the flash. It'll even let you program the paging channel 157.450 in 5 kHz. Same goes for the rest of the APX lineup for whichever band(s) the radios are capable of, including the APX7000, and has been that way since R10 in 2013. I'm not sure why everyone is so blown away by the "awesome engineering and well thought out" concept of something that has been around for a full decade. 🤦‍♂️

I havent checked in awhile, but it seems the issue was 70cm.... wasnt 420-450 forced narrow because amateurs are secondary? Will it allow RX wideband on GMRS?

 

[jeepsandradios]

Let me know when an APX8000 (or any APX radio) can be ordered with both DMR tier 3 and P25 CAI. I'll be waiting.
Let me know when you can order a fully optioned APX8000 with all bands enabled, AES multi-key, P25 trunking and TDMA for under 6 grand.

The VP8000 does what an APX can't do and that is DMR and P25. I'd call that awesome engineering and well though out. MSI expects you to carry two radios like it's 1999.

Not going to argue the DMR stuff but my last APX8000 was $6600 with all bands enabled, AES/ADP multikey, P25 TDMA...and yellow case. Id like to try a VP if I can ever get a quote from a vendor.

 

[kd4efm]

Not going to argue the DMR stuff but my last APX8000 was $6600 with all bands enabled, AES/ADP multikey, P25 TDMA...and yellow case. Id like to try a VP if I can ever get a quote from a vendor.

email me evans@rrt2way.com if you're not able to get from a local dealer.

 

[wd8chl]

I havent checked in awhile, but it seems the issue was 70cm.... wasnt 420-450 forced narrow because amateurs are secondary? Will it allow RX wideband on GMRS?

I was able to do both 420-450 and GMRS full wideband at will. Interesting since 420-430 is Part 90 here...