800Mhz Simplex Channels Gone? Going Away?

MrBungle

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Wondering if these have gone away or what the status of them are. I used to use these all the time with my co workers. We knew we could come over to one of these and skip the car to car when we really didn't want anyone listening. Also, it never made it back to dispatch in any way and was "off the grid"
 

PMJ2kx

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Based on this image? Most likely yes.

<meme> *slaps radio* You can fit so much interoperability in these bad boys... </meme>

That being said, the FCC license associated with those frequencies in the DB is cancelled...I think it's WQLA280, but I'm way too tired to dig into that and confirm it at the moment haha

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N7OLQ

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I'm pretty sure there is an equivalent set of 700MHz frequencies with the same designation (at least nationally) Possibly the Z14 conventioanl column: STRPT01 (State Repeater 01) with STTA01 (State Talkaround 01) being the simplex/talkaround on the RPT output frequency.
 

hazrat8990

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I'm pretty sure there is an equivalent set of 700MHz frequencies with the same designation (at least nationally) Possibly the Z14 conventioanl column: STRPT01 (State Repeater 01) with STTA01 (State Talkaround 01) being the simplex/talkaround on the RPT output frequency.
There are no 700MHz equivalents. The channels you are referring to in the chart are the exact same 800MHz frequencies that were already in use.

That being said, the FCC license associated with those frequencies in the DB is cancelled...I think it's WQLA280, but I'm way too tired to dig into that and confirm it at the moment haha
I wouldn't pay too much attention to what RR is showing. If you go to the FCC's ULS website and do an advanced search on the frequencies themselves, you'll see there are multiple call signs issued for each frequency under UCA's FRN, and many are active well beyond 2026. The website is super slow and quite frustrating, so I didn't waste too much time on there.
 

N7OLQ

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There are no 700MHz equivalents. The channels you are referring to in the chart are the exact same 800MHz frequencies that were already in use.


I wouldn't pay too much attention to what RR is showing. If you go to the FCC's ULS website and do an advanced search on the frequencies themselves, you'll see there are multiple call signs issued for each frequency under UCA's FRN, and many are active well beyond 2026. The website is super slow and quite frustrating, so I didn't waste too much time on there.
Can't the just use 7TAC51 through 56 on the NIFOG interoperability plan? (Z15)
 
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inlandpatch

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Can't the just use 7TAC51 through 56 on the NIFOG interoperability plan? (Z15)
No, that's not what those channels are intended for, its for emergency interoperability not day to day operations. Page 29 of the NIFOG 2.01, "Note on using the Federal Interoperability Channels: These channels may not be used for state/state, state/local, or local/local interoperability. A federal entity must be involved when used."

Those channels would be rarely used but will be used in a disaster scenario, I would definitely just have those in your back pocket to scan but not on a normal basis.
 

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No, that's not what those channels are intended for, its for emergency interoperability not day to day operations. Page 29 of the NIFOG 2.01, "Note on using the Federal Interoperability Channels: These channels may not be used for state/state, state/local, or local/local interoperability. A federal entity must be involved when used."

Those channels would be rarely used but will be used in a disaster scenario, I would definitely just have those in your back pocket to scan but not on a normal basis.
Those notes apply to the FEDERAL (NTIA) Frequencies, the 700/800 are Part 90 (FCC) and fall under the Licensee and the State SWIC/Interop Committees
 
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