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Hello everyone wanted to see if anyone could help me out or provide me some simple explanation or information. I'm new to scanner and recently bought a Uniden Home Patrol most of the Frequencies have been uploaded to the Home Patrol 1. I seen in the Data Base that there are the Calgary Hospital Security and commissions frequencies but am unsure if they can be scanned and monitored ? And how would u program them in the Home Patrol ?
 

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I don't think that the system [MPT] used by hospitals in Calgary can be monitored by the Home Patrol [and I stand to be corrected]. I don't monitor it with my Home Patrol. What I have done on a programmable scanner is to put in the input frequencies which are 5 MHz higher than the output. However, most of these are portables so one has to be close to the facilities. And I believe a lot of security may be using iDen phones so are no longer available to be monitored. I believe there is another thread on the topic of the MPT system within the Prairies Thread.
 

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Not too sure of what they are using in Southern AB but here in GP I was able to listen to them on UHF FM Analog until recently....seams that they have stayed on UHF for now but sounds like they have gone to P25 encrypted, so that's gone now also
 

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Not too sure of what they are using in Southern AB but here in GP I was able to listen to them on UHF FM Analog until recently....seams that they have stayed on UHF for now but sounds like they have gone to P25 encrypted, so that's gone now also

Do you have a digital capable scanner? Chances are they have gone to DMR or NXDN. Seems like an utter waste to put a hospital security guard on P25 with encryption... But it IS AHs so this would not really surprise me any.


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Only have the ICOM 2500 P25, but it seams funny that they would spend $$$ at this point to switch from FM Analog when the direction for AHS is to move over to AFRRCS.... oh wait they are a public entity ????? maybe they would spend before the new system comes in LOL
 

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In Edmonton they are still on UHF but are slowly moving to a Turbo or NXDN sound. U of A and Royal Alex have moved and the others seem to be following. Keep in mind they are Peace Officers and not security guards. Maybe they just want to avoid comms like "Mr Prominent guy is going wild in the rubber room again."
 
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Do you guys Think that the New Uniden BCD436HP would be able to pick it up? Or in just plain simple terms all Calgary Hospitals are Unmonitorable? What about the Alberta Health Services the Voice/Tone Paging frequencies? does anybody hear anything on them ever?
 

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Have posted just above about the AHS security in Calgary. And yes, some can be heard as I have stated. But most have gone to iDEN. And I do not believe the newer Uniden scanners will monitor any of the iDEN, TRBO or NXDN now or in the near future. As others have posted in other threads, DSD is a possibility but that is another subject that is not part of your original posting. As for pagers, most of the ones I have seen are just numerical with no voice. It basically will tell you the number to call or that there is a voice message. The Databases do contain the frequencies that AHS in Calgary operate on. For others can look at Spectrum Direct and input HEALTH. Or Search Canada's TAFL select Alberta and input HEALTH. In Calgary the 427 and 429 MHz input frequencies are easier to listen too but may only get one conversation. The paging frequencies are listed as well in these frequency searches and will appear as a single frequency. I have not listened to any of these but believe all you will hear is the tone or data stream. I didn't look at all the frequencies listed in Calgary, but looked at a couple from the 429 MHz range and the information does no show that the frequencies are NXDN or TRBO. Still appear to be analog.
 
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And just to be Correct on my Understanding The Red (c) are primary control channels that I would input into the scanner? this is there main channel? and than they have a secondary channel in blue writing and this would be another channel they use?
 

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And just to be Correct on my Understanding The Red (c) are primary control channels that I would input into the scanner? this is there main channel? and than they have a secondary channel in blue writing and this would be another channel they use?


Can you post a link to the frequencies in question? That will help us help you.


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I do not think the HP will decode this system [but I stand to be corrected]. I hate to be repetitive but I posted this on my first posting in this thread. When I place the frequencies in that you have posted, I get a continual noise. Now if I input the frequencies 5 mHz up, the noise is not there but you will here some voice at times.
 

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As I have a short lunch break, I did use the HP to scan the frequencies between 424 and 430. I sit almost on top of RGH so not surprised to hear them. Here are the Frequencies the HP indicates: 424.8375 [which is listed to a few users in Calgary, not AHS]; 428.7125 tone paging from AHS; 428.1375 none AHS but nothing listed in Calgary; the 2 frequencies I heard for AHS were 424.0625 and 424.7000. If you are in the NE part of Calgary, scan the frequencies between 424 and 430 and you should be able to pick up PLC.
 
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Robertmac is correct, no scanners, past or present, track this format.

The system can be followed using Trunkview, and a second scanner controlled by the software to follow channel grants.

This is made easier by only needing speaker audio to use Trunkview, rather than a discriminator Tapped scanner.

I have spent a bit of time using Trunkview to monitor control channels, the system, it is very dead most of the time. I was also out working so I did not dedicate much time to monitoring and as such did not see any activity other than idle channel messages.
 
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On the Home Patrol could I just manually Enter the frequency's that robertmac had given to me from Rockyview Hospital? And PLC? And once I punch in the Frequency how do you add it to your home patrol? I always once I enter the frequency just press scan and it starts scanning normally but am sure that I am not scanning that frequency? Do I just type in the frequency and just stay on it till I here something or can I add to the Home patrol without using the computer software?
 
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