AM is it really dead?

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Vehicle manufacturers don't want to be bound by the requirements of not polluting the RF spectrum, so it was just easier to eliminate the AM radio feature from their cars.
The interference issue in electric vehicles could probably be solved with some sort of filter. Might be cheap, too. There was a bill drafted to make AM inclusion mandatory in vehicles. Not sure what happened to it.
 

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The interference issue in electric vehicles could probably be solved with some sort of filter. Might be cheap, too.

Correct, that's been mentioned a few times in this thread.

The issue isn't political, like some want to make it, it's purely economical. Changing designs, adding shielding, adding filtering, it all costs money. That money either comes out of profits/shareholder dividends (oh, the horrors!!!!), or it gets passed on to the customer.

Rather than fixing the issue, it's easier to just eliminate the device that exposed the sloppy design. Essentially hide it behind a curtain.
And they've gotten away with it for the most part. AM audiences are way down. Younger people stream audio. For many, this isn't an issue at all. For some, it is. For some, it's the end of the world, end of the hobby, and a personal attack on their eternal soul and mortal being.


There was a bill drafted to make AM inclusion mandatory in vehicles. Not sure what happened to it.

 

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Everything broadcast is dying. Many big AM stations have moved to FM, but there wouldn't have been anywhere for them to move to 30 years ago as FM licenses in major markets were a premium. WIP and KYW on FM in the 80's? No way. Sure, nowadays everyone is streaming their stuff........but wait- now everyone with a decent internet audience is trying to establish premium memberships, Patreon's, Mighty Networks, etc., etc., etc. as the content platforms are making money hand over fist, but not sp much for many content creators. I doubt "free" quality online content is going to last forever, either. Personally, I find radio ads way less annoying than internet ads. Who knows where this all will land but I still think the market will correct itself. I mean, if I told you 20 years ago kids would be buying music on vinyl, you would have laughed me off this site. Anyway, here is an interesting article about some solutions to address the challenges of AM transmitter sites: AM Stations Have New Options. Ya know someone, somewhere is lobbying for the return of CONELRAD.
 

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everyone with a decent internet audience is trying to establish premium memberships, Patreon's, Mighty Networks, etc., etc., etc. as the content platforms are making money hand over fist, but not sp much for many content creators. I doubt "free" quality online content is going to last forever, either. Personally, I find radio ads way less annoying than internet ads.
Exactly. Ads are creeping in to satellite radio just as they did with cable TV, despite the promise of an ad-free experience paid for by subscription fees. Also agree that radio ads are far less annoying/intrusive than internet ads. One need look no further than Youtube, which is the reigning heavyweight champ of annoying, intrusive ads. Youtube was amazing before Google purchased it - now they have ruined it, IMHO. (I refuse to watch Youtube now, period)

In conclusion, I agree with you - it's a bleak landscape for terrestrial radio, whether AM or FM
 

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I was in a Dunkin Donuts the other day. They have their own ads that are after so many songs. This announcer says "Dunkin' Radio" so loud it almost gives you a heart attack. Though last time they turned it down somewhat.
 

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I was in a Dunkin Donuts the other day. They have their own ads that are after so many songs. This announcer says "Dunkin' Radio" so loud it almost gives you a heart attack. Though last time they turned it down somewhat.
I think they have there own satellite radio channel.

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Everything broadcast is dying. Many big AM stations have moved to FM, but there wouldn't have been anywhere for them to move to 30 years ago as FM licenses in major markets were a premium. WIP and KYW on FM in the 80's? No way. Sure, nowadays everyone is streaming their stuff........but wait- now everyone with a decent internet audience is trying to establish premium memberships, Patreon's, Mighty Networks, etc., etc., etc. as the content platforms are making money hand over fist, but not sp much for many content creators. I doubt "free" quality online content is going to last forever, either. Personally, I find radio ads way less annoying than internet ads. Who knows where this all will land but I still think the market will correct itself. I mean, if I told you 20 years ago kids would be buying music on vinyl, you would have laughed me off this site. Anyway, here is an interesting article about some solutions to address the challenges of AM transmitter sites: AM Stations Have New Options. Ya know someone, somewhere is lobbying for the return of CONELRAD.
While I realize this is not a AM only issue, personally I find most radio stations very annoying with their 5+++minutes of commercial blocks. I know they do this to allow uninterrupted segments but I just do not understand how advertisers find it appealing especially when their ad is #10 out of 10. By then the listener has mentally tuned out.
Unfortunately the transmitter site issue is only one of many serious problems with AM.
 

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While I realize this is not a AM only issue, personally I find most radio stations very annoying with their 5+++minutes of commercial blocks. I know they do this to allow uninterrupted segments but I just do not understand how advertisers find it appealing especially when their ad is #10 out of 10. By then the listener has mentally tuned out.
Unfortunately the transmitter site issue is only one of many serious problems with AM.
The ad blocks are just background noise until the regular programming resumes. Probably not much different than people scrolling right past ads on websites or blocking them altogether. Or leaving the room when commercials come on TV. In the big picture, advertising has gone far beyond the saturation point and has ruined the user experience.
 
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