Well,
Thought I was done. A few more thoughts, and then I'll let you all have it.
wrong answer again man .
i have been a part owner of a major radio shop for the past 30 years .
I've worked for 'part owners'.
and if anyone is spreading false info its you . your leadiing people to think if they buy something the can load a key and bam get all encrp comms .
That's exactly, one hundred percent, how it works. If they buy something that has the capability,
and they get the keys, you load them, and as you say, BAM, they get all encrypted comms.
and your the one thats sharing on how to break it.
Not once. I haven't shared a single thing on how to circumvent lawful encryption. I've just said it's possible, while you and the others say it isn't.
Making yourself out as a part owner of a Major Radio Shop, and telling them that their hardware scrambled ADP system is uncrackable is false and misleading. Bad. They will believe you.
in fact a county nextdoor bought the g series for all the vollys. and several have asked to have the law programed in and they will not do it . so that should tell you something
It tells me that the people asking don't know how to ask, not that it isn't possible. (shrugs)
Tell me why my shop who has many users on our county radio system and has the magic way to program. can not do it with out written permission to do it ?
You
can. You have 'the magic way to do it'. You just...
don't. See the difference?
just for kicks have you read the ecpa act yet.
Read it? Sure*. This might blow your mind, but
it was never intended to address private citizens monitoring government; it protected the rights of a private citizen in their private capacity against others eavesdropping. ECPA probably would get gutted in suit on 1st Amendment grounds if one had the money and time to pursue it.
*(to be fair, I have been Daubert qualified as an expert in the 6th Circuit of US Federal Court on Technical Intercept and Surveillance.)
" all we are trying to say is just because it supports it does not mean your going to get it done.
That's fair to say, but it isn't accurate. You and the rest say it isn't possible. It most certainly is. Likely? No.
In the 90's, I had motorola tell me it wasn't possible to program an analog Smartzone system without getting the System Key from them. Not possible. No way. Not even Motorola Engineering could. Very secure.
This is the same thing, you just may not be aware of what's really happening out there.
i would love to have my local pd back even through my shop has the way to do it . does not mean i am going to do it.
Then, that's a moral problem, not a technical issue. See? Technically, if you understand how to do it, and you have the equipment, and the keys, then you certainly can.
and before you ask no i dont support it on dispatch channels .
I wasn't going to ask. Since we are sharing, with very, very few exceptions, I don't support it on any governmental 'channels'.
the biggest question i get asked is when someone is deciding to go to a system is "is it true that the fcc/ homeland security requires it" I aked who told you that then they tell me xyz salesperson told me . I just laugh and tell them no .
They are partly correct.
There are national standards. TACN follows those standards so they can get Federal funding. One of those is the system must be encryption capable. Initially, it was hardware ADP, then there was some issues, and now it's... something else.
There is no regulation or law at the Federal level that mandates enc active, just that it is available, and that it be uniform for interoperability.
Look at
SAFECOM II . That is what safecom morphed into a while back. Lot more on the topic there.
this is just a fun fact :
On the other hand, cracking a 128-bit AES encryption key can take up to 36 quadrillion years.
Just imagine what time it would take to crack a 256-bit AES key, which boasts a staggering number of 984,665,640,564,039,457,584,007,913,129,639,936 combinations. Keeping this number in mind, we can safely assume that a brute-force attack on AES encryption will not happen
I'm not sure we should discuss this here. Mods, if it is an issue, please, feel free to clip my response. I mean no ill will and like my membership here.
Neither of those things are accurate.
You err in that you assume you will have to try every combination in the keyspace. That's false. (
what if the key is all 0's?) You also assume that there also isn't cryptological tradecraft to further reduce the keyspace. Lastly, you appear not to understand there are many, many ways to compromise keys.
here's one:
without a significant increase in computing power.
(Imagine where someone could theoretically obtain a bunch of stolen credit card numbers. You can stack a TON of amazon virtual computers. A ton.)
Edited because I forgot my funny (but true) picture
