Anytone Anytone 878UV II Plus Programming Help ... band errors, TX freq errors, help?

[sefrischling]

Before I take a baseball bat to the Anytone 878UV Plus II … maybe someone can shed some light on programming errors.

I had loaded 3.0 Firmware and CPS, the radio would not load anything when I would click write. It would say it was writing and then there was nothing. So I went back to 2.05.

Now I need it in the Commercial Mode, some of the TX/RX frequencies are outside the amateur band. This radio will be used as a personal secondary radio while working Fire / EMS, primarily when dealing with mutual aid, we’re VHF surrounded on two sides by UHF.

Every time I try and load the code plus I get Band Error. I keep reading Band Error means you’re CPS and firmware are not the same, but I can confirm they are the same. I had reset the radio twice, then go in and swapped it to the Commercial Mode, then imported the code plug, same issue.


I have reset the radio, put it in Commercial Mode and rewritten parts of it and I get Band Error.

I am well within the acceptable band, not even close to the outer fringes.

This radio is seriously ticking me off … help?

I do not need a debate on using these radios in public safety. I am well aware of the debate and well aware of what I can and cannot do on our network. I am also well aware of the limitations of our assigned radios, which is why i am working on grants to replace them all, and the lack of budget that exists for that. I just need to sort out this radio's issues.

 

[cmjonesinc]

The old way was to hold the ptt and 1 while turning the radio on. The turning the channel knob from 0010 to 0000. Not sure it that's still the same with the newer versions.

 

[rgchristy]

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[kb5udf]

I'm not sure if this is your issue, but here goes. I believe I recall reading that this radio and/or CPS will balk if you try to upload a codeplug
created with a different band mode or whatever they call it (its numeric). This problem is said to occur even if the old codeplug frequencies you are trying to upload would be within the new mode/band split. The reported solution (sadly) is to make a completely new codeplug with the new bandsplit.

 

[BabaDude77]

What KB5UDF said is true but the best way is to export all your info from the CP(scan lists, freq’s, everything separate) then start a new CP with the correct band splits and then re import the info saved earlier this will save you from having to do it all by hand. Also you may need to open up your radio using the anytone mods to RX out of band, I did this to my 878 and it receives up to 520mhz now.

 

[sefrischling]

This radio won't let me even initialize it, and change the radio to maintenance mode. If I try and even upload the blank code plug,with the two default channels, it just says Band Error, even with the CPS matching the firmware. It seems like a $300 door stop at the moment.

 

[mitaux8030]

'Band' on the 878 is easy when you know how it works.
First, the radio has a 'band' setting - a set of software frequency limits imposed upon the radio that it will work within. This 'band' has a number identifier eg: 0000 for 400-480 & 136-174 MHz allowed, and so on.

Next, each saved codeplug file - even the 'default' one that CPS creates when you clear everything and start anew, will also have it's own 'band' setting - which may or may not be the same band setting in the radio. Keep this fact in mind for just a second or two.

When the CPS software is told to write a codeplug to the radio, it first checks with the radio what 'band' setting it is set to, and only if it is the same band setting the codeplug is using will the data be written. Otherwise you get 'band error' - writing with CPS does not over-ride that band setting or force the radio to make a band change to suit.

To avoid this, you need to make sure your radio 'band' setting and the codeplug 'band' setting are the same.
One way you can do this is to read from the radio first. This will allow the CPS to 'grab' the 'band' the radio is set to, and you can then edit the configuration to your heart's content, and write it back to the radio, safe in the knowledge that you've been editing a codeplug 'grabbed' from the radio with the same 'band' setting - and so no 'band error'.

But the minute you try to use someone else's codeplug that doesn't have the same band setting, or create a new codeplug of your own using the default band setting - unless your radio just happens to be using the same band setting, you'll be right back to where you started with 'band error' messages. This is reason #1 for creating your own codeplug and not using someone else's. Reason #2 is that you can't guarantee what version of CPS was used to create the codeplug in the first place, and you could potentially be trying to stuff a version X codeplug into a radio running version Y firmware - never a good idea - lots of weird things happen in that situation, and it is something you'll want to avoid. Just loading the version X codeplug into CPS of version Y doesn't automatically update or rebuild the codeplug to version Y; the software ain't that smart. And bonus reason #3 for creating your own codeplug is that you decide how your radio is set up - every last little detail & preference - and not how someone else thought they'd like it to be for them. That's all a codeplug is, really, a giant 'preference' settings file for a radio.

But if you really, really must use someone else's codeplug and the band settings don't match between their codeplug and your radio, there are five methods you can use to get one to match the other - either by changing the radio band setting to match the codeplug, or vice versa. You can read about them here:

http://anytonetechzone.byethost7.com/878techmods.htm#BandError

 

[sefrischling]

'Band' on the 878 is easy when you know how it works.

I am using my own original code plug. I am using v3.0 firmware on the radio and v3.0 as the CPS.

I am trying to put the radio in Maintenance Mode, with the blank Anytone default code plug and it gives me the band error. I try putting it in US Commercial mode, with the blank Anytone default code plug, and i get the band error. I try putting in any mode, always with the Anytone blank default code plug, I get the band error.

I tried restoring it back to 2.0.5 on the Firmware and 2.0.5 CPS, same issue.

 

[mitaux8030]

OK, lets take this REAL slow, one step at a time.

Let's first determine what band your radio is set to:
Connect the radio to your PC with the programming cable, and turn the 878 on. Leave it alone for 30 seconds to stabilise.
Open CPS programming software, and use menu Set > Set Initialization to clear CPS memory contents first, then select Program > Read From Radio. You can select just ’Other Data’ to read. Let the CPS programming software read the radio contents, and once done select menu Model > Model Information. In the middle of the window will be ’Frequencys’ and next to that will be Mode with a number. This is your band number.
What is that band number given? Provide screenshot if you can.

 

[sefrischling]

Right now my radio is in factory settings. I have gone to Model Info to change the band, and from there I have repeatedly attempted to upload the default code plug, from the CPS, which only has two channels proloaded in it. Nothing else at all. No matter when I do, whether I have the Options set to amateur mode or professional made, having tried every single option under Model Info, I get the band error, with absolutely nothing in the CPS other than the two default channels from AnyTone.

 

[sefrischling]

For reference, I have been programming Moto, Kenwood, Vertex and Harris radios for my fire department for years. I have been programming the Ailunce HD1 radios for a few years, for members to use as their personal non-issued radios. I have programmed analog conventional and P25 Phase 1. I understand how this is supposed to work, I think the radio may just have a software issue from the factory at this point.

 

[alcahuete]

Changing the setting between professional and amateur mode does NOT expand the frequency coverage. It just adds more options in the settings.

Start here: http://anytonetechzone.byethost7.com/878techmods.htm#BandError

 

[mitaux8030]

Well, if you refuse to follow advice from those experienced with the radio... there's not much anyone can do for you. You sound smart enough to figure it out on your own, which is exactly where you are right now... on your own.
When / if you're prepared to begin heeding advice and stop blaming the radio... get back to us.

 

[rdlinn]

In short, export-read from radio-import-write to radio...

 

[sefrischling]

With all the issues I had with the 878UV Plus II I received a week ago, it was driving me nuts, nothing worked. In an effort to see if it was a radio problem, I ordered another one on Wednesday, it arrived about 90 minutes ago, in possibly the earliest Amazon delivery in history, and after 30 minutes I had this new unit programmed and working relatively as expected.
Yes, there will be a learning curve, as there always is with a new radio or CPS, but this one had no issues at all in being set up, updated to 3.0 , taking the code plug and both receiving and transmitting.
I think the original unit I received has some issue with it.
That said … first off … thank you to everyone who offered me assistance. I appreciate it!
Secondly … does anyone know of a BlueTooth speaker mic that both receives and transmits with the 878UV II Plus? Neither my HYS or Inrico can Xmit. They both RX only.

 

[BabaDude77]

Anytone is rolling out a BT speaker mic mainly designed for the 878s mobile sister but I believe will work with the HT

 

[sefrischling]

Anytone is rolling out a BT speaker mic mainly designed for the 878s mobile sister but I believe will work with the HT

I had seen that, however is nearly the same size as the 878. Have you seen them side by side?

 

[BabaDude77]

No I have not, I know it’s mostly used on the 578 I believe for vehicle operations. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the same size, have you looked at some of those Zello type BT mics I know people have suggested them for the G series pagers due to their quietness on P2 systems.

 

[sefrischling]

No I have not, I know it’s mostly used on the 578 I believe for vehicle operations. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the same size, have you looked at some of those Zello type BT mics I know people have suggested them for the G series pagers due to their quietness on P2 systems.

I tried the HYS and Inrico BT mics. They can RX but cannot TX. In looking around I have yet to find one that can TX with the 878.

 

[BMDaug]

I tried the HYS and Inrico BT mics. They can RX but cannot TX. In looking around I have yet to find one that can TX with the 878.

Otto makes a nice BT mic. I use it with my Harris and it works great! It’s $120 though… The AINA aptt1 may also work. There are some on the bay for around $40 right now.

-B