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APX apx cps keeps crashing after doing a whole bunch of programming

kainixon2187

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this program just loves to crash abruptly and destroy an entire day's worth of work, fml :cry:. is there anyway i can recover all of these zones/channels i programmed?
 

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As buggy as MSI CPS and firmware can be at times, I've never had APX CPS just crash and burn in all the years and releases I've used. You're going to need to be more specific, what version of CPS are you using, what operating system, what are you doing when it crashes (i.e. are you able to recreate it), etc.

And no, there is no way to recover changes that were in-progress if you didn't save the codeplug. Best practice going forward is to hit the save button every once in a while to lock in changes in case something like this happens. In fact that's good practice when editing anything on a computer, save often, make backups, etc.
 

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As buggy as MSI CPS and firmware can be at times, I've never had APX CPS just crash and burn in all the years and releases I've used. You're going to need to be more specific, what version of CPS are you using, what operating system, what are you doing when it crashes (i.e. are you able to recreate it), etc.

And no, there is no way to recover changes that were in-progress if you didn't save the codeplug. Best practice going forward is to hit the save button every once in a while to lock in changes in case something like this happens. In fact that's good practice when editing anything on a computer, save often, make backups, etc.

I hit save every time I make a change. Just a habit I got into years ago, and it's saved me on several occasions.
 

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I pretty much hit Save when I make a change on any line in the Zone Assignment and or any menu or feature change. I learned that back in my beginning RSS days and I carried it over to CPS.
 

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On our latest laptop upgrade, we got Panasonic FZ-55 and we have had nothing but problems with APX and Astro25 CPS. Both programs will crash after an undetermined amount of programming. Then we have to reboot the laptop to make it work again. It is infuriating. Not a Motorola problem on our end, but an image or hardware issue as we did not have these problems on our old HP laptops.
 

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On our latest laptop upgrade, we got Panasonic FZ-55 and we have had nothing but problems with APX and Astro25 CPS. Both programs will crash after an undetermined amount of programming. Then we have to reboot the laptop to make it work again. It is infuriating. Not a Motorola problem on our end, but an image or hardware issue as we did not have these problems on our old HP laptops.
Which OS are you using. I've not had any issues with my FZ-55 but mine is older with an 8th gen i5 and still running Windows 10.
 

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Which OS are you using. I've not had any issues with my FZ-55 but mine is older with an 8th gen i5 and still running Windows 10.
I'm running Windows 10 and 11 with both of my Astro Digital 25 programs. Windows XP 32-Bit for my Astro Saber and XTS3000 programs, Professional Series, Commercial Series, and MTS2000. Also, I converted a Sony XP Pendium I to a DOS 6.2 only for my HT1000/Visar and MT2000 programs.

This laptop clock speed is too fast for the Saber, P110/GP300 programs. It'll go through the motion of reading the code plugs but when you go to view it there is no data.
 

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I'm running Windows 10 and 11 with both of my Astro Digital 25 programs. Windows XP 32-Bit for my Astro Saber and XTS3000 programs, Professional Series, Commercial Series, and MTS2000. Also, I converted a Sony XP Pendium I to a DOS 6.2 only for my HT1000/Visar and MT2000 programs.

This laptop clock speed is too fast for the Saber, P110/GP300 programs. It'll go through the motion of reading the code plugs but when you go to view it there is no data.
I've not had any issues with Windows 11 Pro on my work Dell OptiPlex using APXCPS 29+ and Astro25 CPS (20.01.00). Not had any issues yet with the FZ-55 on Windows 10 Pro (though for Astro25 I tend to use the serial port instead of the USB cables) other than Quantar RSS 14.13.00 when doesn't show some things correctly when you are reading/saving codeplugs in the popup file menu. The older stuff I run on either a CF-19 with a Centrino processor on Windows 10 LTSC 2019 (32 bit) that also dual boots into MS-DOS 7.1 or a older Core 2 Optiplex with Windows 7 Ultimate (32 bit) that also dual boots MS-DOS 7.1 (but via PXE). Both of the 32 bit machines work great for HT1000, Maxtrac, GM300, Radius, etc and will successfully read a Spectra but I've never tried writing the Spectra.

I think we are specifically referring to APX CPS right now though.
 

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I meant GM300 Radius not the CP series radios. On my HP XP laptop I don't have any serial so I have use an USB cable that co version to serial with the Proliffc driver and I have to use the RIB for the Astro 25 Astro Saber and XTS3000 and the MTS2000 programs. For the Professional and Commercial Series programs I can use the straight USB RIBless cables.
 

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Which OS are you using. I've not had any issues with my FZ-55 but mine is older with an 8th gen i5 and still running Windows 10.
11th Gen i5 2.61GHz with 16GB of RAM running Windows 10. Constantly having to reboot. I assuming that it is the image. I assume that someone just blew in an image from a different laptop model. Some vendors are very good at doing things like that, one in particular.
 

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11th Gen i5 2.61GHz with 16GB of RAM running Windows 10. Constantly having to reboot. I assuming that it is the image. I assume that someone just blew in an image from a different laptop model. Some vendors are very good at doing things like that, one in particular.

Could be, I've seen that happen before. I commandeered mine from our EOC at the beginning of the year and the first thing I did was a clean install of Windows. I would prefer it to have LTSC on it like my personal computers but I'm not going to push that too much for a county laptop.
 

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Ours are restricted heavily (federal), so we can't add or delete anything without getting approval. This makes it so we cannot do a fresh install; I sure wish we could. We are at the mercy of what ever image they choose to use. The laptops work sometimes, but after about 10 or 15 Motorola radio reads/writes, we have to restart the machines. Oddly enough, the L3Harris software (Key Admin, Key Loader, RPM & RPM2) seems to work okay.
 
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