As stated in NFPA Code it is the building owner / occupants responsibility to install such equipment.
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The building is already built and obviously obtained occupancy permitting. You can not cite them for no radio coverage now, doesn't work that way.
Still have a hard time understanding why the building owner has to provide radio coverage when it's owned by the municipality, but I digress. Isn't that why we pay taxes?
"The building is already built and obviously obtained occupancy permitting. You can not cite them for no radio coverage now, doesn't work that way"
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Don't be too sure about that.
Fire and municipal codes change over time and in many locations the governing agencies will insist on bringing facilities up to code in the interest of public safety, ADA compliance, etc
In any case, this situation sounds like it needs local, professional evaluation.
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Don't be too sure about that.
Fire and municipal codes change over time and in many locations the governing agencies will insist on bringing facilities up to code in the interest of public safety, ADA compliance, etc
In any case, this situation sounds like it needs local, professional evaluation.
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Yeah, most typically when building changes are done that require permitting. Although, it would still be very hard to demand radio coverage for the entire building for all agencies everywhere in existing building. Also, some of these insane fire radio NFPA codes have been redacted in some cities because of the complexity of installing BDA's as well as the cost. They can cause more problems then they solve if not done right and it only takes someone to move donor antennas around to start causing problems.
I don't think the OP is going to find any resolution to the problem by telling codes that their radios don't work. Just my opinion.
Thankfully a lot of places seem to be amending the below section, but IFC 2021 requires it in existing buildings of certain use groups.
As you said, the BDA craze has provided much more headaches and its fair share of issues. Unfortunately those enforcing it have no idea how detrimental they can be, resulting in the opposite effect.
Anyway, I suppose we’re far off topic now, thankfully OP got the correct answer right away.
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Local Fire Department and Code Enforcement is the best place to get LOCAL ANSWERS.
The 9/11 disaster and several events that followed brought a lot of attention to the n-building coverage issue. The fire guys got tired of waiting for radio guys to solve the problem. They decided that they have the 'hammer' - fire code - so they now mandate coverage in new construction and, in some cases, existing as well.
The result is that the BDA business - now known as ERRCS ( "Emergency Responder Radio Coverage Systems"), has become a billion dollar a year business. A lot of people want a piece of that pie and not all of them have a clue as to what they're doing.
Public safety system licensees and administrators now must have comprehensive ERRCS policies and commissioning test procedures in order to protect themselves.
The result is that the BDA business - now known as ERRCS ( "Emergency Responder Radio Coverage Systems"), has become a billion dollar a year business. A lot of people want a piece of that pie and not all of them have a clue as to what they're doing.
Public safety system licensees and administrators now must have comprehensive ERRCS policies and commissioning test procedures in order to protect themselves.
MTS2000des
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BDA's are a double edged sword. Too many are being thrown in by Chuck and a Truck low voltage contractors with zero experience, tools or skills to do it properly. Doing it wrong can have wide and expensive consequences. Ask me how I know. For 6 months, our radio system was severely compromised with illegal carriers knocking out just shy of half of our channels, saving us from fail soft, but we had the nice effect of Max Headroom echo chamber from the improperly implemented and UNAUTHORIZED BDA going into oscillation. Hundreds of hours and hundred and thirteen grand later, it was found by an astute technician from our MSI service shop. This gem almost got people killed. Not joking. The FCC was involved, and our DA's office was aware.
This is a LOCAL issue that needs the AHJ oversight, radio system owner authorization, and vetted and trained shop to do right or don't do it at all.
This is a LOCAL issue that needs the AHJ oversight, radio system owner authorization, and vetted and trained shop to do right or don't do it at all.
MTS2000des
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Also, any entity or individual desiring to install a public safety signal booster (ERCES), should read the FCC public notice referencing Federal law 47 CFR 90.219 which REQUIRES written authorization from the part 90 license holder. This public notice can be found here:
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I really love this install !!!
As many have already mentioned: OP needs to reach out to a reputable radio company, that has a working relationship with VIPER to design, install, and commission a BDA/DAS system. With a BDA that is registered with FCC, with a re-broadcast agreement from VIPER (the agency had holds the license)
As many have already mentioned: OP needs to reach out to a reputable radio company, that has a working relationship with VIPER to design, install, and commission a BDA/DAS system. With a BDA that is registered with FCC, with a re-broadcast agreement from VIPER (the agency had holds the license)
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