No. Not without system keys. Pretty much why system keys exist. Access and programming of subscriber units to system and limitation of said radios to be field programmed or cloned without permission.Can the keyed trucked system be moved into a nicer radio. Want to rid myself of two 2500's and put both in my 7000.
and this is why those of us who administrate trunked radio networks write to radios with ASKs. This prevents duplicate IDs and activation of unauthorized subscriber radios on our systems.Can the keyed trucked system be moved into a nicer radio. Want to rid myself of two 2500's and put both in my 7000.
No, you are doing something that is unauthorized and possibly illegal in your state (it's a felony here in Georgia).Everyone is always thinking everyone is not suppose to be on the "system". I'm issued a radio 2500. I purchased a 7000 so I could use work and play on the vhf side. .
Their system, their rules. Don't like it, build your own multi-million dollar network, hire a full time staff of folks to maintain it.Everyone is always thinking everyone is not suppose to be on the "system". I'm issued a radio 2500. I purchased a 7000 so I could use work and play on the vhf side. Big M charges an arm and a leg to copy over the codeplug. This is with AWIN. They just have strict rules. One being you must be in a position to be programming a min 200 radios to request a system Key. That's BS.
And still no THANKS button on this forum.The OP may wish to read the Radio Programming User Agreement for AWIN, specifically this part:
Cloning of radio ID’s is strictly prohibited. No radio ID shall be programmed into a radio unless authorized by AWIN Operations to do so. No radio ID shall be duplicated in the AWIN system. Requests for new ID’s must follow the AWIN Request Radio ID Procedure
You asked. Sorry you don't like the answer. I am sure AWIN is probably already aware of what you are doing, us system folks usually browse these forums. It is our jobs to ensure the integrity of our systems and that users are following policy. Not that you seem to care about that.It's not like I won't notify AWIN. I'm in charge of our system unit numbers. Thank you for your long reply but take it elsewhere. .
What you don't seem to grasp is the fact that we have rules and policies in effect for a reason. You may not like it, but you agreed to them when you came onto systems we manage. If you don't like it, you are free to put up your own system and allow what you wish. Again, I am only stating facts.I asked a simple question and got a simple answer. It's simply, so far, just pay big M to move my code plug to a different radio. It will have the same ID, so it's not cloned per day.
So you get why we get upset when people try to circumvent our policies. We take our users' safety seriously. Our bosses and taxpayers expect nothing less.I understand it can be a headache for system admins but that's their job.
So you have an Aeroflex (3920B?) and all the service tools but are complaining about paying an authorized programmer to do what they do and to honor the agreement your agency presumably signed with AWIN? That shop had to buy the 50K Aeroflex, cables, pay Motorola for software subscriptions, and the overhead of employees. Not to mention, they absorb the liability for anything with the radio once they touch it. But I know you could care less about that.The expensive equipment is in the latest firmware, etc. it's aligned by the latest state of the art aeroflex. So yea. I got my stuff together. Yes AWIN has authorized the transfer. Once again, was looking to avoid paying big M for a simple plug copy.
So why not just shut up and pay the authorized shop their fee and be done with it? You know we aren't as dumb as you think we are. Remember, we get paid what we do for a reason.I'm glad all the regs are there and I understand why.