Baofeng and others sold as scanners.

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What are peoples thoughts on people programming and selling the Baofeng and Quansheng radios as scanners?

I recently came across a local news social media page and found the administrator selling Baofeng handhelds as scanners. I never did find out what kind of pricing was set on them and politely informed the person selling them they were not scanners and not appropriate to be sold as such. You could tell they were not really familiar with the radios or programming them, but they did have a few frequencies listed. I also told him that the radios he was selling to people are not going to work in a few months once the new P25 system going into my county comes online. The seller doesn't seem to be a supporter of law enforcement at all and chases the PD in his city from call to call.

The person selling them asked me "codes" to get them to work on a Motorola Type II system and how to make them continue to work when the new system arrives. I kind of got a little bit of a laugh out of it all. He messaged me earlier this week asking if I had found a solution for when the new system comes online and I said I didn't know of one in his price range.

IMHO it's people like this who make the jump to digital make sense. Not going to discuss the E stuff here, but I also have to wonder how many times he has purposely keyed that radio or other agencies. I have no issue with people scanning to find out what is going on and fully admit for many of us it's more a function of being nosy without interfering with whatever is going on with a particular agency or incident.

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Buyer Beware! This practice has been going on for years, on EBay, Amazon, Tik Tok and many other places that sell the CCRs, there is nothing new to this deceptive practice. Every so often it pops up here in the forums.

Honestly, thoughts or not, lies and misrepresentations about the CCRs will continue, so I have just started ignoring it. How can you talk to someone who is convinced the $10 radio sold on Tik Tok will work as good as a $400+ scanner from Whistler or Uniden?
 

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Stupid people doing stupid things. It's what makes the world go around....

Speaking of stupid. I bought a Quansheng last year when it was "all the rage". Updated it with Egzumer and it's really not a bad air frequency scanner! Perfect for beating around with and not having to worry about.
 

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What are peoples thoughts on people programming and selling the Baofeng and Quansheng radios as scanners?

If they are programmed for receive only, then there's nothing illegal about that. No, they are not great scanners, but they are a low buck option for those that just want to listen to a few local frequencies.

If they are programmed to allow transmitting, then that is another issue.

A lot of people will never be anything but a consumer. They don't know how radios work. They wouldn't know how to program one. They are perfectly comfortable paying someone to do the hard work for them in exchange for a box that lets them listen.

IMHO it's people like this who make the jump to digital make sense. Not going to discuss the E stuff here, but I also have to wonder how many times he has purposely keyed that radio or other agencies. I have no issue with people scanning to find out what is going on and fully admit for many of us it's more a function of being nosy without interfering with whatever is going on with a particular agency or incident.

Any thoughts?

Well, yeah. Digital on it's own will not fix that.
But let's talk about encryption...
People transmitting where they do not belong is -exactly- one of the reasons that agencies like encryption and like trunked systems that have good access control and security.
We've had that issue locally where individuals with two way radios have programmed them to transmit on local public safety systems. They see no issue with popping up on the local fire channels during active wildland fires to ask questions or give advice. The FCC has busted people for that and it's well documented.

People that do stupid stuff like this with radios, be it a CCR, MARS/CAP modded ham gear, or an eBay Motorola are part of the problem. Unfortunately they are too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions.
 

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You should try the F4WHN firmware. It works great for aircraft scanning.
Stupid people doing stupid things. It's what makes the world go around....

Speaking of stupid. I bought a Quansheng last year when it was "all the rage". Updated it with Egzumer and it's really not a bad air frequency scanner! Perfect for beating around with and not having to worry about.
 
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