Bearcat1.com affiliated with RR?

[blantonl]

Probably best just to block requests from the IP. It's a hosting service, not an ISP, so it would not affect anything but requests from that server and not individuals trying to access the site. Of course if there were sites that are authorized to access RR on the same server, this would not work.

That's not how things work with iframes.

Bearcat1 is "embedding" our content within the context of their site - but your browser still makes the same connection to RadioReference and it is your browser that is making the request.

However, we can instruct your browser not to load the content in an iframe on another site if we so choose. And that is what we did.

 

[blantonl]

Not fully it looks like. You now initially get an error message that the content can't be shown in a frame and a link to send it to a new window. Clicking that link you get the content like earlier, but without their site's info. Screenshots below. You may need to block based on the referring site from their javascript code that launches the separate page. At least now it's obvious that the new page is from the m.radioreference.com site.

It's not Javascript code - it is us telling your browser not to load the content in a remote iframe. Each browser handles that request differently, and some older browsers don't even support it. There is no referring site - an iframe simply creates a faux browser "window" that your browser connects to RR with normally.

The content being loaded is our "light" site for mobile devices.

Either way, this is sufficient enough...

 

[Citywide173]

That's not how things work with iframes.

Bearcat1 is "embedding" our content within the context of their site - but your browser still makes the same connection to RadioReference and it is your browser that is making the request.

However, we can instruct your browser not to load the content in an iframe on another site if we so choose. And that is what we did.

It's not a frames situation. There should be an option in your cpanel or whatever hosting management software you're using that will allow you to block calls from a single IP. The page is set in the frames HTML and called from the site, not the users browser. Fireground Photos, my oldest site, has been using frames since 1999, so I am very familiar with how they operate. An IP block will not allow anything to be called from your site to theirs, resulting in a more secure block. The result will be a page that does not allow the page to be loaded from the frames, even in a seperate window, as is now the case. Mine looks like this:

EDIT: the IP address to block is 206.55.221.24

 

[dave3825]

http://www.bearcat1.com/QuickFrequencySearch/ from here I am able to right click on that USA tab and choose open in new tab, and the rr mobile site is there....

Same with the UK Search, Canadian Search and the Australian Freq Srch tabs.....

 

[blantonl]

It's not a frames situation. There should be an option in your cpanel or whatever hosting management software you're using that will allow you to block calls from a single IP. The page is set in the frames HTML and called from the site, not the users browser. Fireground Photos, my oldest site, has been using frames since 1999, so I am very familiar with how they operate. An IP block will not allow anything to be called from your site to theirs, resulting in a more secure block. The result will be a page that does not allow the page to be loaded from the frames, even in a seperate window, as is now the case. Mine looks like this:

EDIT: the IP address to block is 206.55.221.24

Ok, Ed. :roll:

Go into your "cPanel" and block this iframe:

http://www.radioreference.com/iframe.html

 

[Citywide173]

Ok, Ed. :roll:

Go into your "cPanel" and block this iframe:

http://www.radioreference.com/iframe.html

First, he is using frames, not iframes, but it is blocked within 2 minutes of me seeing the post.

EDIT: It also does not contain a link to open it in a new window.

 

[blantonl]

First, he is using frames, not iframes, but it is blocked within 2 minutes of me seeing the post.

EDIT: It also does not contain a link to open it in a new window.

Still not blocked.

If you want to be the student, I'll be more than happy to teach you how to do it. And I'll tell you right now it has nothing to do with blocking IP addresses :lol:

 

[blantonl]

I guess there is no sense in me being condescending... here is the answer.

 

[Citywide173]

I'm going to assume that you realize inserting that code into a site that runs on frames would effectively shut the site down, as even internal calls would be blocked. I don't think it was malicious, but your efforts to "teach" me could almost be viewed as an attempt at DOS if I implicitly trusted you and knew nothing about my own code.

EDIT: After looking at the code a bit more, I could implement it with "SAMEORIGIN" instead of "DENY", but my method was much quicker. I did, however, lose the ability to link to my site in my signature.

Try refreshing your page. This is what I got on 2 different ISPs with three different browsers, on 2 windows machines, a mac and an android tablet:

 

[dave3825]

Right click, open new tab still gets thru.

<A HREF="javascript:null()" onmouseout="BNB_mouseoff('tabb')" onmouseover="BNB_mouseon('tabb');return true"
style="cursor: default"><table border=0" style="position: relative; top: 50; left: -2; width:71; height: 29;
font-family: tahoma; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11; text-align: center"><tr><td>
<A target="Frame_2_2" HREF="http://m.radioreference.com/?coid=1" target="b">USA Search</td></tr></table></div><br>
<IMG SRC="tabnormal.gif" border="0" name="tabb"></a></td>

 

[Citywide173]

Right click, open new tab still gets thru.

<A HREF="javascript:null()" onmouseout="BNB_mouseoff('tabb')" onmouseover="BNB_mouseon('tabb');return true"
style="cursor: default"><table border=0" style="position: relative; top: 50; left: -2; width:71; height: 29;
font-family: tahoma; font-weight: bold; font-size: 11; text-align: center"><tr><td>
<A target="Frame_2_2" HREF="http://m.radioreference.com/?coid=1" target="b">USA Search</td></tr></table></div><br>
<IMG SRC="tabnormal.gif" border="0" name="tabb"></a></td>

Yes, but it opens in a RR page, not a bearcat1 page

 

[dave3825]

Yeah, but is there a way that when someone clicks it from that site, that its blocked? Cant you block the referring site?

 

[Citywide173]

Yeah, but is there a way that when someone clicks it from that site, that its blocked? Cant you block the referring site?

You could use an IP deny, or probably easier, just put up a hotlink block that includes .htm and .html files from being called. With the latter, you would have to have a whitelisted site that had a page explaining why the content was unavailable and a link to the correct site, or just about every link to your site on the internet would not work. If you're getting the traffic to your URL, and not in someone else's frame, do you really want to block it?

 

[FrankNY]

Headache

Reading this thread gives me a headache.

Is Lindsay satisfied that this problem is resolved?

As was pointed out above by dave3825, right clicking on the link still works.

As has also been asked by dave3825 above, blocking the referring site should work, even in the "right-click and Open in a new tab/window" scenario. I would think that the following in .htaccess would accomplish this.

<Files *>
SetEnvIfNoCase Referer bearcat1\.com bad_ref
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from All
Deny from env=bad_ref
</Files>

This should block, with a Web server "403 Forbidden - You don't have permission to access [resource-name] on this server." error, any attempt by a visitor to any page on the bearcat1.com domain to follow a link to any resource on the radioreference.com domain.

I do not believe that it is possible to block by IP address because the IP address, as seen by the radioreference.com server, will be that of the visitor (who could be anyone) rather than the IP address of the bearcat1.com server.

Frank.

 

[blantonl]

I am satisfied this problem has been resolved. Right clicking and opening a page on our site is fine with me.

 

[Sshadow]

Now you can simply pay him $10-$15 for a database listing he will probably grab from this site. What a crook. I imagine he won't get much from it though. His site design is literally from the stoneage.